had a very fine article explaining why he was for the bill and why he hoped others would join him in being for the bill. i hope you are going to see i know, for example, ron johnson has been very worried about the small business tax cuts. well, i think that s been largely fixed and i think that the national federation of independent businesses and other folks who are for the job creators network have all come out and said this is a very good first step for small business. it helps probably 95% of the small businesses in the united states. so there are a series of those things coming down the road that make me feel pretty optimistic. sean: by the way, i have had your same throat issues. people think it really hurts to talk. it doesn t, right? were not going to torture you. it just is what it is. the vocal chords get inflamed and they need to calm down is all it is. it doesn t hurt.
going to reduce premiums for working americans. i think it s going to cost coverage for many americans as the cbo said yesterday. right now i m a no, a firm no. are you worried this bill will fail thanks to republicans? pretty damning they re coming out publicly like that. i was on the whip team for several year, and what part is you get one group on board and lose another one. it s a matter of math. you have to get to the ma amic number of 216 in this case, and you have to find that balance in order to do it. but these members who are going out publicly, they hurt the process, but they also help the process because they identify, okay, there are problems. for example, if ted cruz gets on board, he gives lots of shelter to lots of conservative members because they can say, well, even though the club for growth or other groups have come out against it, the national federation of independent businesses and ted cruz and the chamber, they re on board and so
of this law, so the justice department, which is saying, look, the court is wrong, the congress does have this authority to mandate this purchase, the justice department is fighting that issue and the obama administration will, too, because it s a critical part of the health care bill. you have to have enough people buying in to be able to afford the policy for everyone to begin with. so, this is likely, because you are seeing different appeals court decide in different ways, this is very likely going to end up with the supreme court. there are other challenges to this law, as well, attorneys general from many of the states are challenging this thing. guest: that is right and they are weighing in on it as are various business associations including the national federation of independent businesses with 350,000 small businesses saying it is too expensive, we will saddle small business with
independent businesses, more than 60% of small business people, would be affected by this 2% cut. those are the people in that 2%. let s not pretend that it s some anomaly of people up there. there are a great deal of people up there who don t necessarily need the tax cut but 60% of small business people in the country according to the national federation of independent businesses are in there and would be impacted. we can t pick and choose. don t make the argument that all the people who are $250,000 and above category are small business owners. they are not. they re not, but 60% of small business owners are. so if we re going to punish them all and not give it to them we re also going to be affecting their ability to create jobs in this country and also the bigger issue is we ve been pursuing these democratic strategies for more than a year and they haven t improved unemployment. actually, here s the point randi, when you talk about unemployment, i do recall in march of 2009, w
have revenues in terms of their companies that even exceed $250,000. okay? also, the people who make more people who earn more than $250,000 on the top 2% in terms of earners in this country, so when you also have people who make less than that, you re dealing with people who are likely families, kids in college, those who are also spending. they re the ones who need those cuts more than anybody else. and again, that s 98% of the people who earn money in the country, under $250,000. 98%. yeah, but roland, the independent businesses, more than 60% of small business people, would be affected by this 2% cut. those are the people in that 2%. let s not pretend that it s some anomaly of people up there. there are a great deal of people up there who don t necessarily need the tax cut but 60% of small business people in the country according to the national federation of independent businesses are in there and would be impacted. we can t pick and choose. don t make the argument that