toss this case out, although courts do not always act as swiftly as the federal courts in new york have acted. so i think the key thing to remember is that nothing about the impeachment proceedings needs to await the judicial rulings. these tax returns will come out, whether they come out before or after the president is impeached is almost a sideline, not a matter of great significance. i know that judge katzmann s ruling was very narrow, and he emphasized that. he actually used the word narrow in describing it. right. isn t that a judicial strategy when you re handing it to the court above to give the supreme court a very narrow case to rule on? right. because the only way the supreme court could find any hook to reverse is by looking at broad implications of this ruling, but the ruling itself is so indisputably correct that no one
i think it will not take much time for the supreme court to toss this case out, although courts do not always act as swiftly as the federal courts in new york have acted. so i think the key thing to remember is that nothing about the impeachment proceedings needs to await the judicial rulings. these tax returns will come out, whether they come out before or after the president is impeached is almost a sideline, not a matter of great significance. i know that judge katzmann s ruling was very narrow, and he emphasized that. he actually used the word narrow in describing it. right. isn t that a judicial strategy when you re handing it to the court above to give the supreme court a very narrow case to rule on? right. because the only way the supreme court could find any hook to reverse is by looking at broad implications of this ruling, but the ruling itself is so indisputably correct that no one of the nine justices could plausibly come up with any
the arguments, you have judge katzmann with a 35-page opinion today upholding the lower court and saying yes, they must hand these over. and nowhere in these two decisions does there seem to be any space for the supreme court to rule in another direction. i think that s clearly right. judge marrero wrote a brilliant decision, making it very easy for the court of appeals to reject the quite absurd position by the president s lawyers that just being president means you can t be investigated, even for your tax violations, your criminal activity when a grand jury, a state grand jury is investigating the matter. it was an extreme position, and the court of appeals rendered so narrow a ruling that there is no basis at all for the u.s. supreme court to disagree. i think it will not take much time for the supreme court to
but they ll probably continue to yell about process and anything else they can. but you re right. they can t defend the president. we have the transcript of the call. and the president himself keeps talking about the whistleblower. we are so beyond the whistleblower. here are real actual people who are going to be sitting there completely uncovered to the public, corroborating everything the whistleblower said, saying in their own words. vindman himself of course was a witness to many of this, including the calls. there is no place for them to hide, and they can t it s going to be very hard for them to lie in public. so they re just going to have to make a lot of noise. evelyn farkas, mieke eoyang, wendy sherman, thanks for starts us off tonight. really appreciate it. laurence tribe will join us to discuss the impeachment investigation and this federal appeals court ruling today, unanimous ruling that donald trump s tax returns must be handed over to prosecutors in new york city.
the arguments, you have judge katzmann with a 35-page opinion today upholding the lower court and saying yes, they must hand these over. and nowhere in these two decisions does there seem to be any space for the supreme court to rule in another direction. i think that s clearly right. judge marrero wrote a brilliant decision, making it very easy for the court of appeals to reject the quite absurd position by the president s lawyers that just being president means you can t be investigated, even for your tax violations, your criminal activity when a grand jury, a state grand jury is investigating the matter. it was an extreme position, and the court of appeals rendered so narrow a ruling that there is no basis at all for the u.s. supreme court to disagree.