you got to understand a year ago i had a nephew who was slaughtered and shot with a g n gun. i see it in my district and i see it in my city. i see what guns can do. and i am determined to do that. but you got to understand something, chris. this contempt proceeding has nothing to do with the murder of brian terry. what we are dealing with is and chairman issa has made it clear what we are dealing with now some documents where there is an effort to, number one, figure out how this false document was submitted to senator grassley and keep in mind that there was false information, chris, that was sent to the legislative department of the department of justice from the folks down there in phoenix that is the t atf. these are the same people, by the way, many of them who were carrying on operations like
fast and furious since 2006. in other words, they were operating under the bush administration. they sent the false documents up there and mr. issa knows that. he knows that. and again, and let me finish. and 1300-pages are documents are deliberative internal deliberative documents have already been presented to us by mr. holder. and those doppler we hav wen those. and all the.org arattorney gens asked for and he sat at a meeting and he said look i m willing to turn over documents but just you give me some assurances that you will make a good faith effort for us to bring the contempt piece to an end. and he is not chris: let me let me let me finish. i m almost finished. chris: this is a key point and i want to ask congressman issa about it and also just explain to folks who haven t been following this closely.
regard to getting these documents we are on the one foot line of a field. and i have absolutely no doubt that if speaker boehner showed the strong leadership that i know he will we can sit down, work this thing out with the attorney general and move on. chris: i hate to interrupt but we have limited time and i want to ask you each one more question. the president, of course, asserted executive privilege this week and congressman issa here is what house democratic leader pelosi had to say after that about the fast and furious investigation. they are going after eric holder because he is supporting measures to overturn the voter suppression initiatives in the states. this is no accident. it is no coincidence. it is a plan on the part of republicans. chris: congressman cummings, congress started the investigation of fast and furious in january of 2011 just one month after brian terry was killed and almost a year before holder got into these voter
documents after february of last year which may be politically embarrassing and show that they were scrambling to come up with an explanation for their false denial. how does that tell you what happened two months earlier to brian terry? this period february 4 to december. first of all, kenneth nelson told us on july 4 he had sent shortly after february 4-cent an e-mail. we want a copy of that. we would like to have kennet kennethnelson and a gentleman named cunningham who threatened to take the fifth and a number of the other individuals before us. before wu bring them before us we need to see the documents produced perhaps as and mr. mr. cummings says it very well. perhaps these people were liyig to their losses. but we are not going to bring them in unless we have the ki d kinds of questions we need to ask. i want every one of those people here. i expected to have a panel. part of what you do is you get testimony. chris: you so far refused to have kenneth nelson.
these contempt proceedings to some kind of conclusion and he is offering to sit down with house leadership and work it out and i hope we do that. i really do. let me get to you, congres congressman issa. let s assume that in fact the house votes this week to hold holder in contempt. then what? because you can refer it to the u.s. attorney who works for holder and all likelihood will say he is not going to prosecute his boss. file a lawsuit in federal court which will take years. then you can impeach him. you can arrest him or try to arrest him and have a standoff between a sergeant and arms and his security people or do you just let it sit there? chris, i m going continue my investigation. i left a message with brian terry s mother josie last mon h month. chris: bray enteby enterbrie border patrol agent killed in 2010 and two of the weapons