to taiwan really makes hong kong look small or look unimportant. eventually, hong kong is a very important hub and it has a lot of, well, signals about china and countries still pay attention to it. and i think as long as we can use any of these examples to remind anyone in the world that there is a growing authoritarianism from china and we have to step up to stop them, i think that s a good course. president xi uses nationalism. nationalism is a very important motivating factor in china right now. the chinese portray you as a puppet in the pocket of the united states and other hostile forces who want to see china fail. you play into that, don t you? you spend an awful lot of time in the united states. you go see people like mike pompeo when you re there. are you in the pocket of
from the south west. you can see it nicely marked on the satellite picture here, and the rain will gradually push further northwards through the day on monday. strong, gusty winds again towards the south and a lot of uncertainty regarding the timing of the clearance of this rain, but this is how we re beginning monday morning on a rather wet note for much of england and wales but it s mild and muggy underneath in the rain, temperatures here in the mid teens in celsius but clearer skies of course through the night across northern ireland so a cooler start here. that rain gradually pushes further northwards. there are met office weather warnings enforced for heavy rain across northern england, east and west of the pennines and also for wales, but here and for the south west of england i think it will dry out and brighten up as we head through the afternoon. showers across much of south england and east anglia but also some brighter spells. the highest temperatures of the day will be he
and to make them to stop what they re doing. yeah, i mean, amongst their methods are putting pressure notjust on you, but on family and friends, and some of them, of course, still in hong kong. so how effective is that? because i know, in recent weeks, your family has felt this directly. this is definitely outrageous. like, when we look at the persecution in hong kong, it s getting more and more similar to mainland china. there are a lot of human rights activists, the most famous one, liu xiaobo, the nobel peace prize winner in 2010, they all got arrested, being put injailfor years, just because of they are speaking up against the government. what s more scary is their families also face similar situations. but your families have been questioned, they were briefly detained. and are they saying to you, nathan, we ve got a real problem here ? for now, definitely, we don t
interests in the united states? i haven t played into that. i think that it s my legitimate right to express any signals from hong kong to anyone who wants to listen to it. most importantly, i ve repeatedly urged the hong kong government to give any evidence they have. do you get money, funding from the united states? i have clearly stated that i don t get any fundings from any government, including the united states and the united kingdom. i m an independent activist and that gives me the room to do advocacy work that are most favourable to hong kong people. the reason why the chinese government wanted to fabricate the whole stories of, like, there are a lot of cia and agents in this protest movement is they don t want people to believe that people have the agency, protesters have the agency to ask for a better future because they don t want chinese people to fall into it. nonetheless, it seems to me, you end up, on some of your missions, your advocacy work, feeling disappointed with
links with china. we just saw, in the recent past, president macron of france, chancellor scholz of germany, making very high profile trips to beijing, wanting to deepen trading ties, despite everything that we ve discussed. how deep is your disappointment? well, i ve criticised a lot of global leaders for not being as assertive as they should be, facing the threat of the chinese communist party, and that shows i am really independent of their influence and i m representing at least a large, significant proportion of hong kong people s opinion. it may also show that your message isn t cutting through and that, in the end, china holds the cards, not least because of its massive and growing economic power. well, isn t it actually quite easy to think that my message doesn t cut through when china has so much power and has so much resources? i m not naive. i m not saying that china doesn t have power they are the most powerful