are going to be guest on anderson cooper 360 conn 360. question for you, who is the real leader of the republican party today? house speaker john baner? mitch mcconnell? neither, so says tony perkins, the president of the conservative family research counsel. he said the de facto leader of the gop is speaking or at least was speaking at this event today. it s ted cruz. i asked him about that live when he joins us next. [ susan ] .as though he had never left.
the lines? so you equate homosexuality with polygamy. no, that s not the argument. the argument is being made by those wants to redefine marriage saying it s all based on love. isn t that the argument they re using? all right. if that s the case, where you do you draw the boundaries? that s all i m asking. tony perkins of the family research counsel 8, we appreciate you sharing your views. thank you. all right. i guess david petraeus makes his hiring our heroes, a unique job fair. this is andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] i ve seen incredible things.
clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there s not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to do that? you know, let s look at how do we avoid default on america and american s debt. how do we avoid these issues that are going to bankrupt the country long-term? boehner may come under pressure, though, from some conservative groups, but in the latest sign he may have some wiggle room, in a political op-ed this morning, the leaders of the club for growth, heritage action, and the family research counsel called for, quote, insisting that washington not raise the debt ceiling unless our nation gets on a path to a balanced budget within ten years that stays balanced. that is far from a don t raise the debt ceiling ultimatum. boehner has now shown that he s willing to break glass and allow legislation to p
people saw clips, a black mormon woman, mayor of a small town in utah, who is running for congress. very interesting figure. had a star turn at the convention. you will meet her. and i think she is an impressive she s in a tough race. but if she comes to washington, i think she will be a star. shannon: a great show and a wonderful panel. good to be home. shannon: good to have you back. you can catch the interview right here on fox newschannel. right after our show at 2:00 and 6:00 eastern. keep it here. a little bit later on, we will talk to tony perkings at the tony perkins at the family research counsel about why the democrats might have chosen to take god out of original platform. deform
for todd akin leaving the race. there has been some pushback among conservative republicans to watch the rhetoric. i think they re very upset with how the party has reacted to that. that was tony perkins from the family research counsel who tweeted that out today. he suggested scott brown should be careful in what he is saying. i read that, i said, holy smokes. these folks, they don t get it at all. they re all about ideology and making sure they get the conservatives in office. sam, do you think this will affect the race to the point where claire mccaskill would retain her seat? sure. already, he was the least formidable of the three missouri candidates in the primary. she won out by him losing. and she wants him to stay in the race. there s no other way around it. we did an interview with the senator this morning. she talked about how it wood be terrible if the national republican party would meddle in the senate race and pick a candidate. she wants todd akin in there. to the lar