chief legal correspondent ari melber, legal analyst, andrew weissmann, and my friend and colleague, msnbc anchor katy tur. rachel, we re about to hear from jack smith himself. if i have to interrupt you abruptly, i apologize in advance. your thoughts right now. reading the indictment, nicolle, i was struck by the simplicity of it structurally. this is not a case where we need to wait for somebody to flip. there s no allen weisselberg character out here who we need to find out how much they re going to tell prosecutors. there s no opaque question of intent that we need to wait to see if prosecutors have some access to. there s no, you know, contingent second crime that elevates these things to a more serious thing. all things that we ve seen in other serious cases involving trump and his business. in this case this is straightforward. what they re laying out, it s an accusation. it is not a conviction. what they re accusing him of is that he was not allowed to have this stuf
it is a proud boys hub in the united states, if not the proud boys hub in the united states. florida was one of the states that sent the most people to the january 6th insurrection. there are oath keepers based in florida. roger stone is based in florida. a lot of the extremism radiating into the republican party comes from florida and specifically from miami. the miami republican party is now effectively controlled by the proud boys and by at least proud boys supporters, proud boys adjacent people. so what i think we have to also think about is just seeing jack smith, who, by the way, to me looks a little scary. he walks around with his sort of, you know, his bag lunch and his serious face, and you know he came from the hague and he did that and you re like that s kind of a scary attitude, but his presentation is just by the books. he s not going to be dramatic. the whole trial could be from a