their hostility toward the west. whenever they saw our cameras, the women and some of the children would raise a single finger in the air just like they were taught to do. it represents the one true god who could never be defeated. is it over? isis finished. translator: no, next time it will be in your lands. that s just incredible reporting, richard. james, i want to bring you in on the conversation to talk specifically about mosul and the fighting there and why that may have helped to turn the tide in those ten months or so. the defeat in mosul helped to turn the tide? yeah. mosul had always been the islamic state s largest holding, their self-proclaimed capital in raqqa was much smaller on mosul. when isis took mosul in june of 2014, the nature of war changed just as surely has it had on
matter tell the washington post that it centers on ukraine. nbc news has not confirmed that ukraine is at the center of the issue. the white house did not immediately respond to a request for comment. the post, citing two former u.s. officials previously reported that the complaint was made by a u.s. intelligence official who was alarmed by a promise that the president made to a foreign leader in a phone conversation. trump spoke with the new president of ukraine on july 20 5th. the whistleblower complaint was filed less than three weeks later. ukraine is significant because of reporting that the president was withholding military aid to the country while at the same time trump s personal lawyer rudy giuliani was pushing for the ukrainian government to investigate democratic presidential front runner joe biden and his son hunter. the compliments of these two
two people familiar with the matter tell the washington post that it centers on ukraine. nbc news has not confirmed that ukraine is at the center of the issue. the white house did not immediately respond for a request for comment. the post citing two former u.s. officials previously reported that the complaint was made by a u.s. intelligence official who was alarmed by a promise the president made to a foreign leader in a phone conversation. trump spoke with the new president of ukraine on july 25th. the whistleblower complaint was filed less than three weeks later. ukraine is significant because of reporting that the president was withholding military aid to the country, holding back on it, while at the same time trump s personal lawyer rudy giuliani was pushing for the ukrainian government to investigate democratic presidential front
you believe it is if it is as laid out. we don t know the details yet. we know there was a phone call in the reporting we re getting from the washington post and new york times this morning is that it was ukraine, the whistleblower was talking about this phone call with ukraine. how big a deal potentially is this when you connect the dots to withholding military aid, rudy giuliani out investigating the bidens in ucrepe? ukraine? it could be an enormous deal or it could be nothing. and my sense is that people should keep their powder dry because we re now at 2 3/4 easy years of the trump administration and people think it s time to go in for the kill. the salient detail that would wrap everything up in a bow doesn t materialize or the story is a little overblown. and there s a set there are two secondary things. one, a real danger for the trump people and another a real danger
extraordinary things of the century. the rise and fall of isis, he know you examined where they are right now. but after the pentagon putting out warnings that they may rise again, does your reporting show that a year from now you may be putting out a documentary and call. rise and fall and rise rebirth of isis? rebirth of isis, yeah? it s possible. there are a lot of people still out there who support isis. the isis state, the caliphate, was destroyed. there was a campaign, took five years, it was led by the u.s. military, they had local allies on the ground primarily the kurds. they took isis territory away in rack and syria. but that revealed another prop problem. what do with all the people who lived inside this caliphate. let me ask you about taking away the caliphate because we heard promises time and again of the caliphate, the promise of a