he appreciate when is he gets to the point where he wants to talk to pence in front of the grand jury, these sort of objections would be interposed and so he s letting that litigation process play itself out beginning now. congressman swalwell, as a lawmaker yourself, someone protect by the speech or debate clause, what do you make of this defense by mike pence? do you think it will hold up? i look at mike pence refusing to cooperate not as a lawmaker, but as a former prosecutor. i know it s easy to get mired in the executive privilege claim or the speech and debate clause, but how about the do the right thing clause or your country is asking for your help and you raise your hand and say i want to help them. that s what this is about. dozens of cases before juries with the benefit of witnesses who could jam me up for weeks and months on ridiculous legal claims, but most americans when
states military. senator jon tester of montana has tweeted suggesting that the objects shot down over lake huron in michigan is the same object spotted over montana s airspace last night. we will continue to monitor and bring you developments as we get them. now, to turn to our legal news, it sure looks like former president trump does not want his vice president talking to the justice department. we need to ask why? trump is set to fight the special counsel subpoena of mike pence and donald trump reportedly try to once again claim executive privilege. you might recall in 2021 that the former president tried and failed to block the january six committee from accessing records related to his involvement in the capitol riot. and then it was just last year a federal appeals court said no to donald trump s executive privilege claim as he tried to stop pence s former chief of staff mike short from testifying about donald trump s
privilege is brewing a special counsel jack smith for surges ahead with this investigation into the 16 insurrection. trump s legal team is expected to fight smith subpoena for documents and testimony from former vice president mike pence. this is not the first time trump has tried to keep people silent. in 2020, one he tried in failed to block the january six committee from accessing records related to his administration s actions surrounding the capitol riots. but now it, that was the case in front of the supreme court where clarence thomas was the only dissenter. last, year the federal appeals court also dealt a blow to trump s executive privilege claim, forcing pence s former white house pisa chief of staff to testify for a grand jury, about efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the judge ruled that short likely has important information, not available from other sources. there is also historical precedent working against donald trump. the supreme court ruled against president nixo
we are still following breaking news on the fourth object shot down by the united states military. senator jon tester of montana has tweetedsuggesting the object shot down over lake huron, in michigan, is the same object spotted over montana s airspace last week. we will continue to monitor and bring you developments as we get them. and now to turn to our legal news. it sure looks like former president trump does not want his vice president talking to the justice department. we have to ask why. trump is set to have mike pence. donald trump will try to once again claim executive privilege. you might recall in 2021 that the former president tried and failed to block the january 6th committee from accessing records related to his involvement in the capitol riots. and then, it was just last, year a fellow appeals court said no to donald trump s executive privilege claim as he tried to stop pence s former
it s almost beside the point. everything mary s is about the law is spot on. but let me cut to the chase. he s going to lose this if he brings the claim. nixon is just completely on point whatever rates vice president can be greater than a president and the is a demonstrated need. that s why we were both suggesting he has tailored his request, probably carefully, to get it what he can t otherwise get. he is going to lose. and there is a strategic question for him. he wants to announce for president, if he makes this challenge now it will hover over him, maybe in eight months, or whenever, when it s played out. and he loses. it will have been nothing that impaired his announcement all this time. there is a possibility, even though i know the reports are this will spark an executive privilege claim, there s a possibility that he will now say, now that he looks like he s forced and they ve got a subpoena in his hand, he may