department of justice, the special counsel s office, from properly executing their investigations to undermining the fbi, in whatever way they can, to undermining the executive branch agencies. i saw this when i was a house staff member on the house intelligence committee. there s an increasing attack on our long forsman agencies, and our intelligence community, from the republican party, this committee, with it s incredibly broad powers, is now the vehicle that the republicans are going to use to try to attack those people who protect us at home and abroad. congressman dan goldman, a freshman congressman in his first week as a member of the house of representatives, is already one of the most experienced congressional investigators in the house of representatives. congressman dan goldman, thank you so much from the leading off our discussion tonight. coming up, congressman katie
i think by now, with our audience understanding that the democrats get to have six members of that committee, many of them are hoping that congressman daniel goldman will volunteer for service on the democratic side of that committee. that s up to the leadership. i d be happy to serve the caucus in whatever way they think would be valuable, but i have plenty of experience taking on jim jordan during the impeachment investigation and i think what is clear about this committee to obstruct justice if it is designed to stick a cog, stick a fork in the wheels of justice and to prevent the department of justice, the special counsel s office, from properly executing their investigations to undermining the fbi, in whatever way they can, to undermining the executive branch agencies. i saw this when i was a house staff member on the house intelligence committee. there s an increasing attack on our long forsman agencies, and our intelligence community, from the republican party, this committee,
take a look at these two individuals. you know, these young people, both kids of faculty at mit and stanford, obviously bright, obviously precocious. but look at what they are able to do, you realize there was virtually no adult supervision, very few limits on what they could do. and when it all came crashing down, it s fine to blame bankman-fried for what happened. but where was congress, where were the executive branch agencies. it s not like it s anything new, people have been talking about the fluidity of the market and uncertainty for years and everyone is acting like claude reigns that they are shocked this could occur in the market. john: you are the master of the metaphor, no question about that. do you expect the doj will make an example out of fried and send
pursestrings. if you don t tie your oversight effort to cash for the fbi and doj to fund them, i don t think they re going to do you think the congress will tie that money to the fbi on the oversight committees? well, i totally agree with that, and i do, sean, i do. we ve had extensive discussions about using a practice called fencing which is basically you kind of draw appropriations or authorization fence around various pots of money in order to compel whether it s the fbi or the cia or the nsa to give you information that you are demanding. it s the a shame that you actually have to do that, but that is what s necessary. the other thing i think we have to use more effectively, sean, is our subpoena power. because it s not just fisa abuse and the immediate for fisa need for fisa reforms, it extends to various are other executive branch agencies, right? for example, no one s been held accountable for the shameful