welcome to our continued coverage. the new york criminal trial of former president donald trump. i m rachel maddow joined by my colleagues. also, lawrence o donnell is with us pick we are going to be joined by the star witness for the prosecution in this trial, michael cohen. he will speak to us exclusively. his first reaction to this verdict tonight. michael cohen will be joining us in one moment live. 4:20 p.m. p.m. and it is we, the jury have reached a verdict. 45 minutes later at 5:05 p.m. the jury was back in the courtroom and is seated. the defendant donald trump was seated as well. the judge addressed the four people. and the judge. without telling me the verdict, how s the jury? and yes, they have reached a verdict. take the verdict, please. with the foreperson please rise to the members of the jury agreed upon a verdict? yes. and how say you to the first count of the indictment, charging donald j trump with the crime of falsifying business records in the first degre
let s have echo alternate universe in which the civil penalty didn t happen. and these criminal convictions did not happen. from your sense of how he movese through the world and how he deals with humiliation and failure, what do you think he has left to do that he can do in response to this that we should be prepared for? he is going to blame everybody other than himself. judge merchan is corrupt. judge engoron is corrupt. michael cohen is a liar, a felon. a rat and everything else he has been calling me for over six years. he will blame everybody else other than himself. he does not understand the concept of accountability. somewhere along the line, i guess, his parents didn t teach him that there are consequences for actions. on the consequences question. it struck me, i was in the courtroom one of the days you were testifying. there was this line of people who had come to support donald trump orientation and to be vice president or something. they want to be what you
election. the way he responded to that is by creating an alternate universe in which he did not lose the election and the country is paying the price. three times. three times? losing in 2020, the new york attorney general case and now the 34 counts. the attorney general case with the massive penalty. you are right to point it out with the devastating nature of the blow in that case. hundreds of millions of dollars that he owes and now in this criminal case. he does not have the option to do it he did with losing the 2020 election. he does not have the option to say that didn t really happen. let s have an alternate universe in which the penalty did not happen, the liability did not happen and the criminal convictions did not happen. from your sense of how he moves through the world and deals with humiliation and failure, what do you think he has left to do that he can do in response to this that we should be prepared for? is going to blame everybody other than hims
something that judge merchan can continue up to the time of sentencing. i m just thinking about the judge in the hearing with the gag orders where he said and none of the weight that was going on was lost on him and who this is in front of him. and he said, i don t want to send you to prison, but i have a job to do. we don t know if he s going the next thing i think the country s going to be waiting for is that, and what does prison for a former president look like? can it be done in fort brag in a room? i don t snow. unbelievable. unbelievable thought. thank you not just for being here today when this happened, it s fitting that you are both sitting here next to me, but for being here every day as this goes on. harry lipman, i know we lose you. saying thank you to your contributions to your hours for the trial are ones i d be going through and itemizing. thank you very much. for those of you at home joining us just now, you have been watching msnbc continuing cover
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