that s why you have the experts to go through it with a fine tooth comb to see if anything could be done. having said that if i were a relative of those two gentlemen that were killed. i d be squadand angry. when you re making decisions in war, everything pain stakenly is done is done. certainly, there are intelligence limitations, congressman, when you re talking about certain areas in pakistan you don t necessarily have eyes on the ground there. we even understand that the conclusion that warren winestein and the italian had died that that wasn t determined through dna evidence. can you give us some idea of how that was determined? no, i really can t. other than they are now certain it is. again, this is hard to determine in any case without going into details, it was quite a while before we knew for certain it was adam gudawn.