that s why you have the experts to go through it with a fine tooth comb to see if anything could be done. having said that if i were a relative of those two gentlemen that were killed. i d be squadand angry. when you re making decisions in war, everything pain stakenly is done is done. certainly, there are intelligence limitations, congressman, when you re talking about certain areas in pakistan you don t necessarily have eyes on the ground there. we even understand that the conclusion that warren winestein and the italian had died that that wasn t determined through dna evidence. can you give us some idea of how that was determined? no, i really can t. other than they are now certain it is. again, this is hard to determine in any case without going into details, it was quite a while before we knew for certain it was adam gudawn.
that were taken out, including adam gudawn. there is no doubt it is a significant blow against al qaeda central in the afghanistan, pakistan border region. adam gudan was al qaeda s central chief english language propagandist. somebody who in recent years was urging loan wolves in the united states to launch gun attacks, for example, and farouk was the deputy leader of this new al qaeda affiliate al qaeda in the indian subcontinent. a group back in september had a failed attempt to hijack a pakistani navy vessel and use it to attack an american warship. so it s a significant blow against the group. these are two key figures. two americans at the pinnacle of the organization over there. phil, quickly if you would. the white house said they did not know that gudawn or farouk