comments, is that this appears to be a persecution from electoral interference, going after donald trump yet again and i wonder whether, in your capacity as the former chief white house ethics lawyer for presidents george w bush and in your capacity as a law professor as well, if you can speak to that, the divisiveness within american society today, the fact that when something like this comes up, there is a sort of instantaneous reaction from both sides where it is impossible at some level to actually look at the case and the facts at hand and instead, people are now very much focused on the politics of all of this. ~ ., of this. well, i would emphasise of this. well, i would emphasise that - of this. well, i would emphasise that the l of this. well, i would - emphasise that the white of this. well, i would emphasise that the white house staff and the ethics lecturers, and i gave a lot of them to the white house staff and several after the indictment of the vice president s chief
banking up on the. maybe you would take your banking app off if you are going to a busy city may be when you don t know very well and just have it on a device that hope and then you could always put the banking app back on when you are back at home in more familiar surroundings. thank ou, from more familiar surroundings. thank you. from the more familiar surroundings. thank you, from the cyber more familiar surroundings. thank you, from the cyber security - you, from the cyber security company. thank you very much. pressure is mounting on us presidentjoe biden to give further details about the classified documents found at his delaware home and a washington office he once used. an independent lawyer, or special counsel, has been appointed by the justice department to investigate whether these papers were mishandled. mr biden has said he does not know what s in the recovered papers. joining me now is richard painter, law professor at university of minnesota and former chief white ho
this talk of a dumpster fire , i it s just fake. thost e. came if you came to washington wad served in the congress and you were walking down a street on capitol hill capiw a dumpster on fire ,how would you respond to it? well, i think i call the fire department on that one . richard painter, not a fireman, but a law professor at the university of minnesota. as we said, the chief white house ethics lawyer, we thoughty we would speak to him again about a new dumpster fire . thank you so much for coming on tonight. so you were very tough in your criticism of the last administration. what s your assessment of whatai te learning about joe biden ? well, a dumps this is a dumpr i fire for sure. i gave the lectures in the bush white house on how to handle how classified information with thec director of the national archives. and hii talk to people who workd in other administrations, my friend craig keshishiand in,
coming in and out of that penn biden center and they saide they were in a locked closet. i mean, what kind of a lock wasf on that closet? lock waand once again, it s not a skiff. so i m very concerned about this. sso let me ask you, first of all, the investigation since ser you served as an attorney in the white house, an ethics lawyer, if somebody said to you, look, we have thisa information as part of a criminal investigation, but crimon, but announce itannounce immediately, as we typically do, we re going to hol, d it until after an election cycle. you would you think that was anl ethical approach? i would not condone any. the timing of announcements based on election cycles. there are some regulations. the department of justice not announcing certain investigations right before an election. whatever those regulationsng ce are,w you follow them to the letter. but the bottom line is you do not make your decisions when w you have discretion. have you do not make your deciss with r
peers could judge them, they could judge themselves. such a strikingly different set. roger stone versus cassidy hutchinson and then the sort of spectrum. and the transcript we saw released today from cassie hutchinson really embodied that and illuminated the internal struggle she was having throughout the three depositions where her attorney continually said just keep saying you don t recall and you don t really need to be complete. he was paid for by her but retained by trump world. she ultimately jettisoned him as an attorney and got outside attorneys to represent her and that led to her testifying in public before the committee. you are absolutely right. it was this wrestling that she had with herself. the fear, idea of being completely alone and exposed. let me ask you and bring you into this conversation. that testimony she is alleged to have said be the attorney who initially represented her, a