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didn t want black people marrying their kids and most of them didn t want a lot of them around, and douglas exploited that, and the charleston debate here, said did you know, he says to the people, that lincoln s friend fred douglas who spoke on our campus twice and there s a statue of him now, rode through this town last week in a carriage driven by a white man. mark: this is the great frederick douglas, an escaped slave, brilliant man. brilliant. mark: who helped lead the abolition movement. that s right, and the lincoln-douglas debates, only lincoln rises to great heights. douglas s health was destroyed by this experience, but lincoln says, you know, maybe the black woman is not my equal. you think. why don t you let her alone? because isn t she the equal of every one of us, and the right

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