that they don t want to default. they want to avoid that, but they don t agree on how to do it. mccarthy wants to hold it at hostage in return for massive cuts on discretionary programs meaning basically everything but social security and medicare which along with defense, make up the clear bulk of the budget while president biden has been adamant that no cuts are on the table. none. so what are these guys going to talk about? and how will mitch mcconnell, chuck schumer and hakeem jefferies factor in? they will also be at that may 9th meeting. does it end an agreement to disagree until this fall? in other words, a short-term deal to avoid collapse? because that is what economists are worried about, a default that will send the markets into a freefall, add rocket fuel to inflation, slash millions of jobs, cut off social security payments and veterans benefits and drag the u.s. economy into an ugly and potentially prolonged recession. no one wants that. joining me now is nbc n
never not dealing with it. what if it were easier for you to deal with pets than with people ? i can t imagine living without dogs. and what if you went from endurance athletes to wheelchair bound in just six months? you realize oh, this isn t going the way this is my life, you know? how would you cope? tonight we ll meet three people who overcame their odds by doing something that you might think is a joke. we re setting out on a strange trip. but stick with us. it s all about to make sense. think back on your childhood for a moment. do you remember the first time you saw mickey? how excited you were on your face? do you remember watching cartoons as a kid and the happiness that brought you entire industries have been built on this. on having kids experienced this magic. but what if you never grew out of that feeling? there are people whose affinity for animal characters never went away. people like lindsey. you okay? you sure? yes the first thing i notice about her is that
i ve never met this person in my life, he said, in 2019 after carol told the story in her book she s not by type, he added a few months later in an interview with the hill. today, during carol s testimony, he called the case a made-up scam he said her lawyer is a political operative and that carol should have produced the dress she was wearing that day joining me now from outside the u.s. district court in new york city is nbc news correspondent ron allen. so ron, some very heavy testimony today. what else did carol say, and how was she how was she pushed back how did donald trump s lawyers push back against her testimony? reporter: they re going to zero in based on their opening statement on some things that they say are just unbelievable for example, she could not tell the jury exactly when this incident, this alleged incident happened she says it was probably sometime in the spring of 1996, but she has said she doesn t know the exact month, the exact date when this hap