i ve never met this person in my life, he said, in 2019 after carol told the story in her book she s not by type, he added a few months later in an interview with the hill. today, during carol s testimony, he called the case a made-up scam he said her lawyer is a political operative and that carol should have produced the dress she was wearing that day joining me now from outside the u.s. district court in new york city is nbc news correspondent ron allen. so ron, some very heavy testimony today. what else did carol say, and how was she how was she pushed back how did donald trump s lawyers push back against her testimony? reporter: they re going to zero in based on their opening statement on some things that they say are just unbelievable for example, she could not tell the jury exactly when this incident, this alleged incident happened she says it was probably sometime in the spring of 1996, but she has said she doesn t know the exact month, the exact date when this hap
a legal can of worms to paraphrase what the judge said by doing that. the judge seemed to be objecting to the tone and tenor of these statements that president trump, former president trump has been making, calling this a witch hunt, a hoax, so on and so forth. suggesting perhaps that he could be opening himself up to more claims of defamation because of the things he is saying about carol, about her lawyers, about the entire case. the judge, as you know, is very concerned about the overall climate this is happening in, and he s concerned about threats and retaliation directed at the jury that s why they are anonymous, which is a very unusual step for a judge to take in any case. so there s that as well. carol is on the stand again this afternoon. we may get to cross-examination, but, again, she is laying out her case in vivid, explicit and emotional terms. ron allen, thank you very much, and joining me now is former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, and msnbc legal
after the alleged incident so that s how they re going to try to take her story apart. the bottom line is that she made a very emotional witness on the stand this morning telling in very vivid detail what she says happened and even though she doesn t remember some of the other issues her attorneys have pointed out and insisted that she does remember exactly what happened when donald trump allegedly raped her. donald trump wants the dress to be part of the evidence what has a judge said about dna in this case reporter: well, it s interesting because for a long time, the trump side has tried to not have dna be a part of this carol s side wanted to put the dress into evidence, wanted a dna sample from trump, and he has not done that for several years. which is spinteresting that he would mention that in that post on truth social. the judge said that he was getting into perhaps an opening
i ve never met this person in my life, he said, in 2019 after carol told the story in her book she s not by type, he added a few months later in an interview with the hill. today, during carol s testimony, he called the case a made-up scam he said her lawyer is a political operative and that carol should have produced the dress she was wearing that day joining me now from outside the u.s. district court in new york city is nbc news correspondent ron allen. so ron, some very heavy testimony today. what else did carol say, and how was she how was she pushed back how did donald trump s lawyers push back against her testimony? reporter: they re going to zero in based on their opening statement on some things that they say are just unbelievable for example, she could not tell the jury exactly when this incident, this alleged incident