verdict came along and we made some emergency arrangements. here in boston. to get into this coverage tonight. we have lisa birnbach joining us, as the first guest tonight, as you know, she is e. jean carroll s best friend and the most supportive witness that e. jean carroll had in the trial. she s the very first person who heard e. jean carroll s story. that very day. minutes after it happened. when she had that encounter with donald trump. and you know, lisa burn box testimony about this, i think should so much light into the ways in which victims of sexual assault often have a hard time grappling with what they just went through. and lisa birnbach did, i think the whole country a service. by helping illustrate the confusion and the denial that a lot of sexual victims feel in those first moments after an assault. it s gonna be really important guest to hear from tonight, lawrence, it s great to have her. yeah, alex, last night, on this program, we hand harvard law profe
the whole country a service. by helping illustrate the confusion and the denial that a lot of sexual victims feel in those first moments after an assault. she s going to be a really important guest to hear from tonight, lawrence, it s great to have her. yeah, alex, last night, on this program, we hand harvard law professor lawrence tribe. and i alerted the audience to the fact that is very likely that president biden would be paying attention to what professor tribe said about the debt ceiling and the 14th amendment on this program last night. and sure enough today, when president biden was asked about it he said, i have been considering the 14th amendment, and a man i have enormous respect for, larry tribe, who advised me for a long time, thinks that would be legitimate. i m not saying he was watching the show. i think you could say that. i think you can say that. i think that means you are allowed to say that. i don t know. i don t know. i think you deserve it.
interview tonight, lisa birnbach. she is e. jean carroll s friend, and as i said, testified in this trial. lisa, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i can only wonder what this has all been like for you, i m going to begin with the moment we all went through today. and we all had some reaction to today. when we heard this verdict. where were you, and how did you hear this verdict? i was doing errands today, having thought we would not have a verdict today. lawrence, and thank you for having me. when i got a text from a lawyer saying, verdict in 15 minutes. and i hightailed it to my lawyer s office and i was in a conference room with the lawyers who helped me out. when i watched it on msnbc. and what did you feel when
donald trump. the jury did believe e. jean carroll. and the jury did believe the first person she told about what happened to her, her dear friend, lisa birnbach. joining us now for an exclusive interview tonight, is lisa birnbach. she is e. jean carroll s friend, and as i said, testified in this trial. lisa, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i can only wonder what this has all been like for you, i m going to begin with the moment we all went through today. and we all had some reaction to today. when we heard this verdict. where were you, and how did you hear this verdict? i was doing errands today, having thought we would not have a verdict today. lawrence, and thank you for having me. when i got a text from a lawyer saying, verdict in 15 minutes. and i hightailed it to my
and his allies and supporters are in clear and present danger to american democracy. so he is very well respected, right? he was almost nominated to the supreme court. it was interesting to me, because i was lit seasoning on the satellite radio because i was running errands today. and thought he was just, even when he was slow to respond. he was a really good witness. trump and his allies are still spouting election lies. do you think it could happen again? not only could it happen again. but when the unthinkable happens, to me, the trump is