it was unwise and irresponsible. it never met even its coverage goals despite the fact tths illegal to be uninsured and spending trillions of taxpayers dollars on it. they have a bill that addresses the budgetary point. these are two big entitlement reforms. it targets what money is available to the most deserving americans to cover them. i was doing some research and even the edtorial board says that s unattainable. we can t do single payor. if you had a magic wand in all our limited resources, if you could fix obama care, what would you do? in fixing obama care the most important thing is getting a lot of people to participate on the exchanges. there s a lot of things going on in the health system that we should focus on, cost reduction and improving delivery of health care but on the insurance part of obama care you d expand
after paris, saying a lot of your liberal friends shocked that you can be against trump and still be a conservative. it happens occasionally and then you re supposed to say this say conservative thing and we like to encourage that. removal from the paris agreement was one thing his proposed budget, political document. but also something that had some conservative priorities, including entitlement reforms. these are things that conservatives should appreciate whechlt left said you should man the battlements with us because you elected somebody you opposed, it s not being inconsistent to say when he does conservative things we appreciate this and encourage more of it. jay tim? did i say jay again? yes! my apologies. i never thought there was any relation there. tim, talk about that, being a conservative in the age of trump and sorting through it. somehow trumpism being confused with conservatism.
shannon, this would reduce the deficit, continue to make this a fiscally responsible bill. secondly, look to senate rules hard to interpret from the house side. it is important to deliver the best to the senate and so they control rules, let s take this step by step. let s deliver the very best products. just remember, in the bill, already two of the biggest entitlement reforms in history plus defunding of planned parenthood and ending using tax dollars, tax credits for health insurance plans. major conservative wins already. this is all about lowering health care costs in the future. shannon: what about critics those with preexisting conditions wouldn t be covered by the law in a way insurance companies would have to
the end. you cannot, over the long haul, deal with our deficits unless you deal with entitlement programs. one quick example, medicare, average over the cup up, course of their lifetime, $122,000 and medicare taxes, take a $387,000 in benefits, passed $265,000 onto their kids and grandkids in the form of higher deficits. president trump is right to increase the military but he is going to have a challenge as keeping the debt and check if he doesn t deal with entitlements over the course of his term. sandra: this would appear to be a dream budget for republicans. why are some having a problem with that? other than what karl points out, the republicans want to deal with entitlement reforms now rather than when it takes a bite out of the back side ten years, 15, 20 from now. the other problem here, the challenge here, trump ran for office and what americans like for him, they believe he can bring economic renewal, revitalization to the country. shifting to the military, this is not a
fight. when you are talking about no entitlements touched. i didn t hear that from mick mulvaney. i heard let s wait and see what it looks like in the real budget in may. two points. first on what we heard from the omb director, i think it s indisputable when you look at the outline of the document, president trump is following through on what he said he would do on the campaign trail, and that s a feather in his cap. you have to give them back. unfortunately one of the things he said he wouldn t do on the campaign trail was reform entitlements, and that s a mathematical necessity. jonah went through some of the numbers for you can t get from here to there in terms of making the debt problem sustainable without serious entitlement reforms for future seniors. my hope, especially someone in the millennial generation, i am being forced to pay into these programs, social security and medicare, everything a paycheck for years but the budget folks tell us the actuaries, if you