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Relatives who one of our crews met outside a residential building here that in fact patrick was the man who was steering that plane. Patrick sondenheimer. Weve known from lufthansa that he was a captain who had been flying with the airline both lufthansa and germanwings as well as another German Airline called condor for ten years. He had 6,000 flying hours. By all means a very very experienced pie lt. He was also the one who tried to get back into the cockpit, first knocking a little bit normally obviously and then trying to kick the door down in the end as the plane descended down there. So we know his identity now. We have talked to his relatives, but they at this point say they are not comfortable speaking in front of the camera because, of course they are still in a state of grief, fredricka. And what about those who knew, the copilot particularly the girlfriend who has been quoted in a german newspaper there in interviews. What more is being said . Reporter well theyre trying to

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