inclusive tale being told by heroes like bill taylor. 50 years, i get patriotic goose bumps listening to that guy. but now we need a message. we need to tell it like it is because what this is arms for political dirt. and i think we ve heard no obstruction, no collusion, which was a lie. we heard perfect call, perfect call which was a lie. but the truth is this is arms for political dirt. that s the message. right. and every time there s a question it has to go back to that. every question. if the president said this, that was a lie, wasn t it? because in fact what was happening he was trading arms for dirt. majority members they weren t going off about emoluments or some other little tangent they did stick to the question of what happened to our president and the president of this very vulnerable question when he
good to be here. it s sort of an interesting setup with these sort of oversight committees and the depositions. there s going to be public hearings in the intelligence committee starting next week. what do you see as the judiciary committee s role here? well, the whole thing is really in two phase. one is the fact finding phase with the national security component and oversight with the emoluments, judiciary committee with respect to obstruction of justice. the next stage is to get the conversation of the evidence, the intel kmilty and maybe some of the others will write reports to the judiciary committee as their findings and consider the evidence to draft articles of impeachment, to consider those, afford due process and consideration of those articles of impeachment and to vote on them. you just mentioned emoluments and you mentioned obstruction of
you just mentioned emoluments and you mentioned obstruction of justice which i think you re referring to some of the incidents that are laid out in the mueller report. that s interesting to me. do you see those as possible i m not going to speculate on what they may be. i m simply saying those are the things the various committees look into. certainly the intel committee, maybe some of the other committees will write reports to our committee, and then we ll have to consider all the evidence in front of us and decide which, if any, are deserving of articles of impeachment, draft the articles of impeachment, hold hearings and provide the president with due process, consider the evidence, give the president and the minority the opportunity to ask questions. participate fully in the process. educate the american people also and decide what to vote on. this is interesting. so i think i learned something there. when you say it s not just you re going to draft these articles should th
over them. they have no defense of the facts. we have seen that. so, first they said he didn t do it then he did do it, then it didn t matter. then they tried to blame the messenger. then they said it was secret and went in and ordered pizza. now, it s not going to be secret. they re kind of running out of defense. what about the new poll from the washington post ? and that shows how divided americans are about impeachment. the poll has 49% saying the president should be impeached. removed from office. 47% say no. you ve got 82% of democrats supporting impeachment, 82% of republicans posing. it couldn t be more divided. what do you say to your constituents who say this investigation is just some sort of partisan endeavor? well, i try to say look at the facts, that this is something that the president has done, has admitted to doing. and you focus on national security. maybe they don t understand the emoluments or they don t understand obstruction of justice, but people understand
reporter: there is very little evidence to the contrary up until this point. you have to think that this vote today in the house was one of the first really affirmative checks on this president. there have been some resolutions passed pushing back on policy specifics and things like that. but of all the issues that we have covered in the time of the trump presidency questions about emoluments, about behavior, about campaign finance irregularities, pick your issue, there s not been more than sort of some verbal hemming and hawing. i guess i will line up with you a little bit, nicole, in that if there are going to be a bunch of federalist paper republicans voting for articles of impeachment, we have not seen that. tim morrison has just wrapped up his day on capitol hill. he is on his way out the door right now. we are starting to learn a little bit more about his testimony today. again, they have kept this testimony has been a little bit