as we know, on several occasions pope francis has said that he used to visit benedict often. he has called him grandfather and on the most in a recent interview actually did not hesitate to call pope benedict a saint. we see here some of his own fellow countrymen who have come to bid their pope benedict farewell. and he called those meetings with pope emeritus benedict personal, fraternal and affectionate. final farewell between pope
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left. there was a pope who said that health care was a universal human right and that was benedict, not francis who made that statement. there s much more continuity between francis and benedict. it s a question of emphasis. sometimes people say, well, there s a doctrinal theology and pastoral theology. obviously they go together but any one human being, in a classroom i will emphasize this and the same person teaching a medieval history may emphasize that, it s a question of emphasis and approach. i think what we are seeing is a smaller papacy. i think that s what s going to carry forward. certainly as francis himself has said, benedict, this tradition-bound, you know, man of the old world did something that no one has done in 600 years, immediately gives credibility to a papal
emeritus benedict s house. he relied on him a lot for wisdom and council. he said it was like having a grandfather around. i think pope benedict was a great asset to the papacy even after he resigned. father james martin, thank you so much. we re now going to pause and listen in to the holy communion.