trump comes in in an emergency way, and howell first rejects his efforts, a end this it goes to the court of appeal. they reject it. i think there is a little bit of explanation, because you can read in their proceedings today. they re saying we won t do any grand jury material. we really essentially just want your opinions, judge howell. so they have a fair bit to say. it s been reported publicly, for example, around the same time they told people they thought that with trump s working the crowd in this way, he, pence was in physical danger. but this is prelude i think to the bigger fight over executive privilege for cipollone and philbin, which may be going on right now, and the even bigger one over meadows. we talked about the sort of pincer movement in georgia and the federal government trying to get at it. now add to that the press. and if they re successful in this motion, and it s being fast-tracked, we ll know pretty soon where beryl howell was on
regard to media wanting access to grand jury-related material is not for your testimony. it s not what goes on before the grand jury. it s materials adjacent to the grand jury proceedings, the judge s rulings, the filings from the trump legal team. so you need not be concerned about the secrecy within the grand jury. but it presents a challenge. and that s exactly what the trump legal team wants. we talked about marc short. mr. jacob offered again in the setting in the context of a congressional hearing the most direct evidence of the knowledge of the illegality of the eastman plot, that they all knew it was illegal, and trump pursued it with vigor any way. i believe some of that has come out in emails any way, that he was warned not to attest to some of the allegations in georgia specifically because he was alerted to the fact that they were erroneous. but talk, harry, about the importance just of these two.
michael is back. and he s more dangerous. maybe the only way he can die. is if i die too. [ screaming ] it is painstaking work. a lot of it happens behind closed doors. it s vital to the good health of our democracy, using raw, legal might to pry loose information from the federal government that could otherwise and would otherwise remain secret. you may or not heard the name crew before. it stands for citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington. but you have benefitted from their good work.
i would agree with that narrative. over time that access of adults started to disappear. and so you can see the impact they had by their absence. and half way through the administration, many of the folks were gone. and the people like cash pate wlochlt had been suppressed during a lot of that time period, not only got to run free but many of them were elevated into the senior most positions in government especially after the election. now i didn t interact a lot personally with cash patel. i had a conversation with someone on the national security council and noted as the star grew in the white house, people were dodging the nfc. then in december of 2020 after the election, it was now starting to be rumor intelligence within the white house that cash would be named as, you noted, as acting cia director.
efforts, but she played a disturbing role. i think even more troubling, at a time when there s less and less public trust in the supreme court is the fact that you have in justice thomas a supreme court justice who has been ruling on casing about the 2020 election and about the efforts to overturn it when his spouse was in some way involved in those efforts. he was the lone vote against allowing the january 6th committee in congress to obtain white house communications related to january 6th, and it certainly we know that his that ginni thomas was in communication with the white house on related issues. that seems like a clear conflict of interest that even if there wasn t a direct conflict of interest, there is certainly a tremendous appearance of bias.