but here s the really interesting thing that s counterintuitive. 55% in 2006 says it hurts, today 61% says it helps the country and 28% says it hurts the country. here s the surprise here, john. i think that politically what the administration has done is in some ways smart because they say, listen were we blew it and we should have done this when when he republicans in congress. now what we do? we come one this declaration of emergency idea. they come one three different pots of non tie it up in the court so they can say we re doing it, we re getting money and fighting the democrats. the problem is her fitting it out on a hill that most of america doesn t care about anymore. so they re fighting it out over an issue that 28% of the country? and republicans are going to fold? yes, i think so. rachel, does that dovetail with kbh what you re hearing in
trump touches dies. john, this is the end of the line for donald trump s wall, and tomorrow in the rose garden he tries to turn the corner apparently on the emergency idea. yes, he will he often claims victory when he loses. he often changes the subject when he loses. he will try to do both tomorrow. but i do think it s super important in the long arc of his presidency, you think of the past two years and two months, we have not seen any instance, until now we have not seen the congress assert itself, certainly not the republicans in the congress have said i m sorry, we re done, the political consequences of sticking with you are too high until exactly now. and i think that is a water shed moment in this presidency because, to me, it is the most important math calculation of all math calculations that every
devastating blow to trumpism in the united states senate. on days like this, we need experienced political observers who can see the big picture in all the individual maneuvers of the day. joining is john holland, national affairs analyst for nbc and msnbc. also with us, rick wilson a republican strategist and contributor to the daily beast, author of the book everything trump touches dies. john, this is the end of the line for donald trump s wall, and tomorrow in the rose garden he tries to turn the corner apparently on the emergency idea. yes, he will he often claims victory when he loses. he often changes the subject when he loses. he will try to do both tomorrow. but i do think it s super important in the long arc of his presidency, you think of the past two years and two months,
because congress won t pass the law he wants them to pass, won t give him the funding for the wall he wants to build, he s just going to go and do it on his own. that s exactly what he tried to do with this asylum ban that we sued him over, right? congress passes a law says you can seek asylum anywhere, between points of entry, at points of entry. he said no, i m going to ban you. again, women, kids, people seeking protection, people being persecuted, we re going to slam the door shut on you unless you wait in line for months at these refugee camps, right? he tried to do that. we stopped him. we sued him in court. we got a rule stopping him. it s the same problem with this emergency idea. the idea that you can just ignore what congress is doing and just go around them by enacting things by executive fiat. yeah, i m glad that at least for now he hasn t tried yet again to kind of circumvent our
with the asiylum ban. he said no. i m going to ban you from seeking asylum between ports of entry, again, women, kids, people seeking protection, people being percent suining pe slam the door on you unless you wait months in these refugee camps, right? he tried to do that. we stopped him. we sued him in court. it s the same basic problem with the emergency idea. the idea that you can just ignore what congress is doing and just go around them by enacting things. i m glad that at least for now he hasn t tried to yet again go around. had the president announced i m declaring an emergency and i under emergency powers that i declare myself to have, i m going to get my wall built that way so while i do that, congress