ahead of that trip, you told the associated press, quote, it just can t be more serious. if roe does fall as many of you expect it will, are you confident that you can keep your clinic, which is the only one opened in the big state of north dakota opened? no, i m not confident. north dakota is one of thefl states that has a trigger ban in place, so if roe falls within 30 days abortion becomes illegal in north dakota. so we are trying to make plans, trying to figure out what all of our options are and that might mean having to move across state lines. elizabeth. let s get into what s happening. we started to see other states minimum tick laws. first of all, there are the trigger bans, tammy talks about. there are another bans that say bank it after the 15th week. it s been talked about in florida, arizona and west virginia.
which had vokes for reproductive rights. thanks for being here. tammy, you appeared in that rachel maddow show special. you talked a lot for access that nancy keenan outlined here. she was saying the abortion fight was no longer about the legal question because of roe, it was how hard it was to get an abortion. it seemed since that moment nine years ago, we have gone backwards. we are in a place the legality is in question. would you imagine we are looking a at future in which roe could fall away entirely? no, they have been chipping away at it for years, state legislatures, especially in states like ours, where there is only one clinic. they ve wanted to win the battle to be the first state to restrict abortion completely. but i really did not think that this day where it really was perilous and come june we may actually not have abortion access in this country. elizabeth, let s talk about
american women to access abortion since roe versus wade was decided. i think so. it s not the battle of roe, it has become a debate and fight around access. as you heard from those wonderful folks providing the care how difficult it is for women to travel distance, read a script by the government, to be told to have a procedure like a mandatory ultrasound that is neither medically needed nor does she want it. that was a former head of net rock, pro choice talking to my colleague rachel maddow on the 40th anniversary of roe v wade. the director of the red river women s clinic. the last remaining abortion provider in north dakota also with us is elizabeth nash the principle policy associate and interim associate institutes