which had vokes for reproductive rights. thanks for being here. tammy, you appeared in that rachel maddow show special. you talked a lot for access that nancy keenan outlined here. she was saying the abortion fight was no longer about the legal question because of roe, it was how hard it was to get an abortion. it seemed since that moment nine years ago, we have gone backwards. we are in a place the legality is in question. would you imagine we are looking a at future in which roe could fall away entirely? >> no, they have been chipping away at it for years, state legislatures, especially in states like ours, where there is only one clinic. they've wanted to win the battle to be the first state to restrict abortion completely. but i really did not think that this day where it really was perilous and come june we may actually not have abortion access in this country. >> elizabeth, let's talk about