there. there is a lot there. what did he tell you specifically about the pressure that the former president placed on him directly? i can t get into that at this moment. i can tell you ultimately there will be a report. there are more people we will tlie to bring in. i would like to bring in jeffrey clark, for example. he was the heir apparent in trump s mind if rosen was not going to do his bidding. and rosen stood fast and didn t. so there was a tense period of time there at a moment when the president was going to put his own man as attorney general. i understand you re not ready to give me the details of what he said during those seven hours, but i guess the question, the key question is whether the former president, when he was still president, tried to get jeffrey rosen to overturn the election results. it was not that direct, but he was asking him to do certain things related to states, election returns, which he refused to do. he just said i m not going to do
men. i mean we have a chance to expand our coalition. that s the only way that we can hold on to power. actually, our messaging was off to black voters, was off to brown voters. look at what happened in the rio grande valley. look what happened in miami-dade. look at the pew analysis of the election returns, the catalyst analysis. it is all the same thing. you know, i m frustrated because i keep pounding to me what is an obvious point home, and if they re more interested in tending to their fundraising list of being on television, sure, they can do that any time, but you are going to do it in the minority. that s what is going to end up happening if we don t get our messaging together and start talking about things that are relevant in people s lives and stay off cuba and a lot of this other stuff. well, okay, speaking of being on television any time, you can come back on my show any time you want to, james. i m just saying.
and ultimately you get to the end of this and you realize this is done in completely bad faith and there s actually no way to argue against this in a rational fashion. you know, jonathan, that s actually i always talk about friends and family members that send conspiracy theories they say, what about this, and you show them election returns and what they ve been repeating for six months is a complete and total lie and they go oh, what about that. then you whack that mole. then what about the vaccine. then you whack that mole. oh, what about and the conspiracy theory is always bouncing and it never stops. you give them facts by the way, something they could find out by spending five minutes on the google machine. five minutes. but instead, they act stupid. like they ve never heard of google before, and like they
couple of big cities, oakland, san francisco, minneapolis, here is new york city. biggest to try it. as ron told you, new york city even before there took forever to count election returns. this could take awhile. steve, i am smiling ear to ear because there s no one on earth with this kind of enthusiasm, expertise, interest in this massive experiment like you can. let me tell you, if it takes 10, 12 rounds to go through it, i am 100% sure you ll have the stamina to cover it. steve kornacki is covering the race. voting ends today. coming up, oakland raiders defensive end becomes the first active nfl player to come out as gay. hope you know i am not doing this for attention. i just think representation and visibility are so important. the reaction from fans, the league, and people across the
justice looking at those laws that have been passed by states and the actions by some states to do their own audits of last year s election returns. and as you heard him say at the beginning of your program, any time the justice department thinks there is a violation, it will act, will intervene in those states. so, it s a pretty clear signal that the justice department does intend to get involved in some of these state laws and some of these lawsuits challenging the new voting restrictions. he said they re in the process now of scrutinizing these laws and testing to see whether they violate the constitution or federal laws which is what these lawsuits that have already been filed by voting rights groups and others in the states claim. pete, let me ask you about the times reporting on the trump doj here for a moment. how significant is it that the deputy attorney general asked for an investigation and what would that investigation look like? well, it would be an