issues that created that gender gap in the first place. that s a good segue because we re going to be talking about women next. thank you, steve kornacki and thank you, krystal ball. i might say the vice president did do a good job of firing up, so much his opponent had to use a lot of water that night, mr. ryan. you can catch both of them on the cycle weekdays at 3 p.m. right here on msnbc. coming up, why shouldn t we be surprised or you be surprised to see president obama landing some big political punches tonight? when governor romney said we should let detroit go bankrupt, we said, no, we re not going to take your business advice. we reinvented a dying auto business that s come roaring back to the top of the world. we have come too far to turn back now. and look at this, paul ryan in a soup kitchen. why is the guy who takes from the poor washing pots?