issues that created that gender gap in the first place. >> that's a good segue because we're going to be talking about women next. thank you, steve kornacki and thank you, krystal ball. i might say the vice president did do a good job of firing up, so much his opponent had to use a lot of water that night, mr. ryan. you can catch both of them on "the cycle" weekdays at 3 p.m. right here on msnbc. coming up, why shouldn't we be surprised or you be surprised to see president obama landing some big political punches tonight? >> when governor romney said we should let detroit go bankrupt, we said, no, we're not going to take your business advice. we reinvented a dying auto business that's come roaring back to the top of the world. we have come too far to turn back now. and look at this, paul ryan in a soup kitchen. why is the guy who takes from the poor washing pots?