their outrageous activity. we did enough. then he decide to talk to the daily beast and says negotiations with mueller s team hasn t ended, because it s not just my opinion that matters. there are other lawyers involved and the president of the united states, of course. my opinion is, i don t trust them. so i think you see a reflection of the president s lawyers do not want him to sit down with an interview with robert mueller. also, if rudy guiliani draws a bright red line, saying, we re not doing anything, you could always face the possibility that mueller would try to subpoena the president. that would set off a whole new legal fight. maybe that s why we re seeing these verbal gymnastics. rudy guiliani is sharing his opinion on what is a crime in terms of the russia investigation, telling the hill, it s only hacking. in terms of what he sees as a crime. is he trying to set the stage or telegraphing something that s coming? wouldn t it be nice when you are a lawyer to decide
account. msnbc anchor casey hunt doing the same thing. is there a growing backlash over privacy issues? shana: this seems to be the straw that broke the camel s back. but most of people have become desensitized to this news. they heard it over and over again. it s the new normal relationship with facebook. i don t trust them. but i will still post pictures of my kids on facebook. they come to expect this will happen. doesn t it erode the brand that was once a glittering brand? shana: it does. facebook will feel the pain of losing high-profile names. highly less ad dollars. facebook will feel the pain. howie: the new normal, something
account. msnbc anchor casey hunt doing the same thing. is there a growing backlash over privacy issues? shana: this seems to be the straw that broke the camel s back. but most of people have become desensitized to this news. they heard it over and over again. it s the new normal relationship with facebook. i don t trust them. but i will still post pictures of my kids on facebook. they come to expect this will happen. doesn t it erode the brand that was once a glittering brand? shana: it does. facebook will feel the pain of losing high-profile names. highly less ad dollars. facebook will feel the pain.
you were talking about this in the green room. i hope we ll have some more insight as the show goes on. i think we did all experience the enlightenment together, but now we re into a post-modern textural analysis. we re making legal arguments. we re looking at the evidence we have and try to figure out what it might mean. trump has been very successfully making a political argument and he has been decertifying the press, telling his voters that we are lying. and it s working for him. so i think that when we say, you know, i can t believe these people don t accept the logic that has been laid out, the logic is very compelling, but they re working along a different system. trump has successfully said, don t trust them, trust me. during his presidency, we ve seen those numbers move. it s worked, but i feel like his greatest vulnerability is when he s revealed as weak or as a failure. not just as corrupt and a liar
deal. it gives an object lesson to criminal defense lawyers. be careful when you make a deal. when you make a deal with the prosecutors, they can come back and hurt you. look what happened to cohen. he made a deal. the special counsel said he s cooperated. the u.s. attorney in new york says he ought to get substantial jail time. that s why in 53 years of practicing law, i have very, very rarely made deals or pleas with prosecutors because i basically don t trust them. i don t trust the system. the system today is so skewed in favor of prosecutors and against defendants. tucker: we may lose perspective here. i want to remind viewers, that you re not a trump voter or a figure on the right. you re defending what you think is our tradition of law. i ve been saying the same thing for 55 years. saying the same thing for 55 years. i expressed the same criticism of prosecutors, whether they go after democrats or republicans.