tricked him into lying about these things. flynn based on these memos willfully lied twice about issues of sensitivity. and when he spoke to russian ambassador in december 2017 first, was he pushing them to vote a certain way on a u.n. security counsel resolution sponsored by the obama administration, and he says no. he said i was just counting votes to see how they vote. but in fact as we found out from the charging documents they knew he communicated and tried to get russia to vote against that resolution or block it or slow roll it. line number two, they asked him when he contacted the russia ambassador again, this is after the obama administration imposed sanctions on russia for interfering in the election including excelling diplomats. did he communicate to the russian ambassador, hey, guys, don t react, don t retaliate for this because there s a new sheriff in town, et cetera, he says no, i didn t do anything, i don t remember really when in fact they knew exactly what he
resolution sponsored by the obama administration. he basically said i was counting votes to see how they were voting. as we found out from the charging documents they knew he communicated and tried to get russia to vote against the resolution or block it or slow roll it. lie number one. lie number two they asked him when he contacted the russian ambassador again, this was after the obama administration imposed sanctions on russia for interfering in the election, including expelling diplomats, did he communicate to the russian ambassador, hey, guys, don t react, don t retaliate for this because there s a new sheriff in town, et cetera, he said, no, i didn t do anything, i don t remember really, when in fact they knew exactly what he had asked them to do, he said don t retaliate. you have one administration running defense against the outgoing administration there. those are issues of importance and consequence that he lied about to that fbi. the idea that he was tricked into it or went
fact that he notes it is material. that s an element of a false statement charge, but i think it s significant because let s remember what mike flynn was doing at that moment. this is after president obama expelled 35 russian spies who were here under diplomatic as punishment basically for russia s interference in our election. as a former fbi agent who did counterintelligence, it is extraordinary to png, that s making them persona non grata, just one diplomat. to do it for 35 is huge. and you have this person, you know, under the table saying don t worry about it. don t react. and, you know, the trump administration has said, well, we were allowed to do that. we re coming in, except that they lied about it, and then other members of the administration continued to lie about it. so the question is why was this material to this bigger investigation? it is a part of a bigger scheme. whether there was a quid pro
coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with the trump campaign. is this central to the entire case? i think it is significant. let s and i m glad that you read that passage because i wanted to highlight that and the fact that he notes it is material. that s an element of a false statement charge, but i think it s significant because let s remember what mike flynn was doing at that moment. this is after president obama expelled 35 russian spies who were here under diplomatic as punishment basically for russia s interference in our election. as a former fbi agent who did counterintelligence, it is extraordinary to png, that s making them persona non grata, just one diplomat. to do it for 35 is huge. and you have this person, you know, under the table saying don t worry about it. don t react. and, you know, the trump administration has said, well, we were allowed to do that.
a problem there but i ve i ve been here for almost twenty years and i ve seen these sort of cassandra journalist me along saying you know can germany be saved on that always works well in talk shows because the person says well maybe it ll be ok seems hopelessly naive but what i have learned in twenty years in germany is that germans don t react at the first alarm bell and they don t react at the second alarm bell but somewhere between the second and the third and final alarm bell somebody goes over jesus we have to do something and something happens i don t know if it s marital who s the person who will have to react she s known for being able to jump off the diving board and in her swimming lesson or acted politics just at the last moment i m starting to wonder if you know she s just like lots of people she s had a lot of a long crisis filled run and she s done some good things for extraordinary things in europe in terms of stability that maybe she needs to move whether she realizes