accurate. it seems from the subpoenas that we ve seen come out of the committee so far, they are actually going after specific people, specific times, and and likely, specific conversations. so, i would expect that there was a fairly specific motivation behind these. but in truth, on the legal level, you don t you don t need that sort of specificity. and, jeff, now you got these new subpoenas for giuliani, sidney powell, jenna ellis. kind of the whole rose galley of attorneys. i just want to remind people of the caliber of arguments they were making in the early days of the big lie. let s watch. so we have mathematical evidence in a number of states of massive quantities of trump votes being trashed. just simply, put in the trash like you would on your computer with any file. and biden votes being injected. so that didn t happen. um, what do you make of i mean, even if they didn t cooperate, what is the point of doing this? well, because you you have
to say, at the end of your investigation, we sought the testimony of these relevant figures, especially if, in your final report, you re gonna say they engaged in improper behavior. but let s remember, rudy giuliani is under very serious criminal investigation in the southern district of new york. there has already been a search warrant, um, for for his electronic devices. his lawyer can talk all they want about executive privilege, about attorney-client privilege. the reason rudy giuliani is not gonna testify is he is going to take the fifth because any intelligent lawyer would tell his client to take the fifth under those circumstances. very similar with sidney powell, who is also under a different kind of criminal investigation. um, so the chances of them testifying are nonexistent. but i think the committee is doing its due diligence in saying, hey, we want to hear from you if you want to talk. and, andrew, i mean, again,
former president how problematic is that? i mean, it s incredibly problematic, right? under under the best circumstances, there are all sorts of attorney-client privilege and executive privileges that could apply. those are all, you know, formidable grounds for opposing the subpoenas. and let s face it. in this crowd, we know they like to litigate. they like to obstruct. they like to delay. so, you can pretty much guarantee that that s gonna happen. i mean, this is the kind of thing, you know, abby, that they i mean, i don t know how sidney powell makes a living but if she does fundraising or sells t-shirts or whatever, this is something she, you know, that person of that caliber would like to use. the fact that they ve been asked and and are, you know, fighting back. oh, 100%. i mean, both giuliani and sidney powell are two individuals who use these types of investigations as fodder to gin up support among the president s base. and, you know, whether or not they use that
we ve seen come out of the committee so far, they are actually going after specific people, specific times, and and likely, specific conversations. so, i would expect that there was a fairly specific motivation behind these. but in truth, on the legal level, you don t you don t need that sort of specificity. and, jeff, now you got these new subpoenas for giuliani, sidney powell, jenna ellis. kind of the whole rose galley of attorneys. i just want to remind people of the caliber of arguments they were making in the early days of the big lie. let s watch. so we have mathematical evidence in a number of states of massive quantities of trump votes being trashed. just simply, put in the trash like you would on your computer with any file. and biden votes being injected. so that didn t happen. um, what do you make of i mean, even if they didn t cooperate, what is the point of doing this? well, because you you have
going after attorneys for the former president how problematic is that? i mean, it s incredibly problematic, right? under under the best circumstances, there are all sorts of attorney-client privilege and executive privileges that could apply. those are all, you know, formidable grounds for opposing the subpoenas. and let s face it. in this crowd, we know they like to litigate. they like to obstruct. they like to delay. so, you can pretty much guarantee that that s gonna happen. i mean, this is the kind of thing, you know, abby, that they i mean, i don t know how sidney powell makes a living but if she does fundraising or sells t-shirts or whatever, this is something she, you know, that person of that caliber would like to use. the fact that they ve been asked and and are, you know, fighting back. oh, 100%. i mean, both giuliani and sidney powell are two individuals who use these types of investigations as fodder to gin up support among the president s