house still plans to vote on tuesday to authorize the committee to go to a federal court against attorney general barr tore seek full enforcement of its subpoena and to petition a judge to unseal grand jury secrets related to the case for congress. but in a sign of newfound cooperation, the house will not formally vote to hold mr. barr in contempt of congress leveling a criminal accusation against him at least for now. and in a new poll from the des moines register of iowans who plan to caucus for democrats, 4% say that congress should continue to investigate the president. but should not launch impeachment proceedings. 42% say that congress should launch impeachment proceedings against the president. leading off our discussion tonight is one of the former federal prosecutors who testified before the house judiciary committee today, joyce vance.
correctly said she hopes she persuaded some legislators but i don t think that people who listen to fox news heard what was said today. and that s who we have to have hear this. the people need to hear or else you have the woman at the amash town hall who says i had no idea that there was anything negative in the mueller report. because i listen to conservative news. and that s the problem is we need to have it s sort of a chicken and egg. you need to have support to go ahead with impeachment bud you need to have impeachment to get the support. i think in watergate beat had senate hearings that preceded the judiciary committee
unpunished a presidential course of conduct designsed to obstruct the very process he has sworn to uphold. do those words apply today in this case? butter was a very courageous man and did the right thing. by the time he gave that statement, the committee had reviewed at some length the direct evidence that supported the articles of impeachment. as of this moment, the judiciary committee has not had access to a single piece of evidence. we have been denied the evidence until this afternoon when the justice department finally indicated they would give us the underlying or some of the underlying documents for the mueller report. i just texted the staff of the judiciary committee asking, can i go see that in the morning. so we are in need of reviewing not only the underlying evidence
power if the president does it must be legal and, of course, that is false. it is the most powerful parallel, always the most powerful parallel we ve seen so many instances in which the president acts with apparent corrupt intent. the example joyce gave a second ago i find the most compel. there s not a lawyer in the country left right or center presented with that strip trump away from it and ask the request whether that is not obstruction of justice. there s not a one na won t say that is obstruction of justice dead to rights. your reading of that iowa poll with 4% saying continue to investigate but don t go to impeachment and 44% coming up behind that saying go ahead, go to impeachment, 42%. my reading that have poll is that investigate obviously there are. people in the democratic party who think that trump needs to be impeached but the 48% is not a we will never be open to impeachment. the 4% seniors investigate away as of now we re not open to impeachment but let s see what h
this is the biggest mistake people are making about the politics of this over and over again which is the fal laefs analysis. that doesn t mean there will be a giant shift towards impeachment but it doesn t mean there won t be depending what facts are put on the table. that gets back to why we need fact witnesses. the fallacy of static analysis. i ll be stealing that. viewers will be hearing that on this program in the future. jill wine-banks, joyce vance, and john heilemann, thank you for starting an us off tonight. appreciate that. when we come back, no one on the house judiciary committee knows more about impeachment than our next guest. zoloft gren served on the committee when bill clinton was impeached as did many other members of the committee but she is the only member of the committee who was there when the committee voted to impeach president richard nixon in 1974, back then, congresswoman lofgren was a staffer on the house judiciary committee during the