bloomberg and deval patrick, and he also pushed back on lindsey graham. what do you want to talk about? the lindsey thing. i mean go ahead. lindsey graham, okay. well, the lindsey graham thing really disturbed me. i saw your comments earlier about this, your conversation with joe lockhart. i look back at some of the things that lindsey graham himself has said about donald trump and some of the things he s said about joe biden. and it s almost like it s a different person. lindsey graham was calling donald trump a kook and unfit for office just a few years ago and praising joe biden as being a great human being. now it s exactly the opposite. he s investigating joe biden and exonerating donald trump. what happened to this guy? on patrick and bloomberg, they re operating on the same theory, that biden cannot go the distance. we ll know in south carolina. i got to run. thank you both. happy thanksgiving to you. thank you. happy thanksgiving to you as well. oh, we ll be right b
offered this by a way of comparison. i think dr. ford was treated well. i think the roles were reversed. the slut whore drunk was kavanaugh. mike barnicle, what would john mccain do? what would john mccain say? i think what john mccain would say is, lindsey, who are you? what has happened to you? because clearly, i mean, he morphed into donald trump, into a donald trump supporter, before john mccain was even put in the ground in annapolis. it is shocking how quickly he switched over to maybe who he really is. we don t know who he really is. we ve had him on here, joe and mika, as you know, numerous times, he is engaging, he can be funny, he can be sort of introspective about things like
republican presidents to get a conservative supreme court. this has been, as john meacham said a 60 year battle. that aim, that battle was finally won last week, of it not? i think that s right. i also think that this is part of why you are seeing so much of the republican party begin to look a little more like donald trump. let s imagine an alternative universe where one of the 16 republicans won that primary and you have a more conventional republican president in the white house. let s play out what would have happened with the kavanaugh hearings. do you think the odds under a different republican president would have been greater, for instance, leadership would have said let s pull this nominee, let s try for someone else. but the trump methodology is apologize for nothing, norms don t matter, wins matter that s what brought us to this moment
a sense of proportionately. it s one story all the time, always angry, always outraged. that has a sense of driving the public to say, you know what? they really are the opposition party. those sfoers are often justified and need to be covered very very hard but have a consequence when they land on a very diverse and now divided public. frank makes a good point, mika. donald trump is not the reason why a lot of people in middle america see the press as opposition party. donald trump is the result of that. same thing with foreign policy. donald trump is the result of 20 years of failed foreign policy. this was a pre-existing condition. americans, a lot of americans in middle america believed for a very long time that the media was just an extension of the democratic party. so to blame that all on donald
his most hardened base and what does that mean for the future of the republican party? well, i think for the short term, a lot of what this means will i think rather the long term a lot will depend on what happens in the short term which is does the party s shift towards the rhetorical positions of donald trump, speaking more like donald trump, getting closer to his agenda like on immigration does it help them in the short term. does it sustain them in the mid-terms and push back against the historical pattern that suggests no matter what happens republicans would have a bad mid-term. if donald trump can come out at the end of mid-term and even if republicans lose one chamber they still hold on to the senate and those seats, maybe taken out a red state democrat or two. republicans feel they like winning and if being more like donald trump helps them to win at all or at least stave off