but we will see. and the judge is no stranger to chump world. justice juan mershon, former prosecutor with 16 years in the bench he just wrapped up a case involving trump s company. in trump s organization. some of his closest associates in business and politics. so there is a guilty verdict by doing december on brownback c case. in the punishment came down in mid-january. as $1.6 million or tim organization to fork over imputed of damages. his accountant went to jail, and a related matter, but, it was just the money that was the integrity that particular case. and there are some who have theorized and speculated really at that was the case they gave alvin bragg the leg and to what will be an indictment i will find out about later today. martha: and the former president was not enthusiastic to find out at the same judge that ruled in that case, is on this one as well. so, he set on a social media
felony using election law violations really is legally flawed. multiplying that flawed theory 34 times does not make it 34 times stronger. so, we re going to have to see if there is something else in his hand. does he have a new crime? bill: further questions now jonathan turning with my very of me last hour talking about a case against a former president. we are waiting for him to leave the new york city residents the trump tower on fifth avenue and head downtown that the couple of miles drive into manhattan for his arraignment on criminal charges. in those charges are so said to be under seal. stemming from an investigation into hush money paid to an adult film star during the run-up to the 2,016 election will receive whether or not that s the case or not. once we find out a bit more later today. dana has a day off she is back in tomorrow. so she sidesteps all of this. and i m bill good morning and welcome back. martha: good morning bill and everybody at home i now martha maccall
morning. worked a morning here for many people manhattan except for this historic arraignment there will require a few hours from now and the former president is then expected to go to court later on this afternoon. the former president basically spent the night and expending this morning huddle with his legal and political advisors in his apartment. he is hired a prominent white-collar lawyer to navigate this case. basic life look at the courthouse downtown. the new york state supreme court will appear later on today facing what is expected 34 business fraud charges in association to the payments to stormy daniels. judge marchand has already ordered no tv cameras at this in the courtroom. they ll be still photographers allowed to record the moment. meanwhile, here trump towers there are small groups of protesters from both sides. as you can see one of the posters shelling president trump behind bars. and then there s this guy, riccardo fois narrow and he is
on this. i do think brett is right. the real exposure is probably in a special counsel case but politically i mean if you had told me that you can pay off a plane make. in an adult film star and actually go up in the polling of republican primary i would ve told you you were crazy. but you are right. brett here, has been coalescing. about every republican jeb bush tweeted out that this case was wrong. to bring forward. in jett bush i can t remember the last time he says something good about donald trump. that s right. and if you make jeb bush began other half of donald trump that is a big feet. and i think it is pretty much a united chorus when it comes to looking at this. even though none of those people have all the details that were well 5 minutes laid out. and what the counts are. they have marjorie taylor greene, i just dropped george santos down at the courthouse.
the political opponents. in an illegal sense more so than they have already. and maybe that s the case and maybe this is a brush back pitch that if trump were to be enter these charges. a lot of different ways to look at this. absolutely and at the 31st charges are as professor charlie and david french and andy mccarthy th think, are serious and unsupported, and brad looses his case it will undermine the confidence in our legal system and particularly in general in the system that they city prosecutors are liberal progressives. who cooper got a look at this and say was all politics and no cover any other investigation that is now being conducted by federal prosecutors. even though they had nothing to do with this one. bill: carl thank you. standby were gonna call you throughout the day. and we will see will be kept thank you carl. i thought you made a great point last hour martha, we talked