working inside in that more immediate area of where that rescue operation was taking place. so, yes, but it s hard to kind of sense that there s some sort of like central, organized committee that is organizing and dispatching all of these rescue teams. it seems like in each one of these locations the efforts are kind of kbroe viezed, some officially, some unofficially. appreciate you being there. thank you. what goes into all the things you ve been seeing. joining us now is joanna heritage head trainer at the search dog foundation. thanks so much for being with us. the dogs that we see, as i said, i mean, some, and correct me if i m wrong here, some are specifically for finding people who are alive and some for finding people who are deceased s is that correct? that s true. but i m not sure which dogs are out there working right now and whether the big question to ask is have these dogs been certified, these dog teams, both the hand her and the dog to a national standard or are th
destabilize the structure even more. so it takes a lot of very careful action. that s why these kind of situations take time. you also are using heavy equipment. you re using cutting tools. you re using breaking tools to break through concrete. you just can t move a large slab of concrete. you have to cut through it or break it and then move forward, build that structural integrity and take another couple steps forward. so, you know, here you see th they re using dog teams. that also helps to tremendously accurately accelerate the point at which victims can be located. it also gives the rescuers the ability to build the plan. so you ve got the dogs that alert, you may want to come in there with listening devices to confirm. and then the rescue teams begin the process of building the plan to go in and reach to where the victim is located. it s a concert of activity, coordinated activity with all of the teams working together to get to where the victims are at.
predecessors while distinguished people have been lawyers, this is the first time we have seen a bona fide national security expert who has posed or been proposed to take over the department. i think that will make a big difference when you conduct after actual reports, and make decisions as to what you should do. more law enforcement present, more dog teams present, more enhanced video surveillance and analysis and actually implementing it rather than letting some of these tragedies and what we learn from them, the aftermath, get lost into a hole of bureaucracy. jenna: your thoughts on that? been your expertise for a long time now. be focused after the 9/11 attacks on really securing the air side of aviation to make sure that people get on planes, we know who they are. we know what they are carrying. we prevent a 9/11 from happening. what we have not focused on, the curbside of the event curbside to the air side, they wait to
least eight injured. your thoughts? i just got off the phone with the head of tsa. five deaths that we know of. the shooter is estabon santiago. he had a military i.d., we don t know if it is current, but every time you get a bunch of people like at baggage claim or like outside of tsa where you re going to security or lines at the ticket counter, it s a soft target and the best deterrence is the dog, those dog teams after the german shooting a year ago, we doubled those dog teams. but they take a long time to train, they re expensive.
ft. lauderdale. one of the things we did in the faa bill we passed last year was we doubled the number of dog teams. these are the dogs that go through and sniff for any kind of explosives. they also act as a deterrent for anyone that is there to do things. but you can t have a dog in front of every crowd all the time. and so, that s the extent of the information that we have. senator, i i want to go i want to come back to the suspect here. again, according to folks that you talked to, his name is esteban santiago. he was carrying a military i.d. we just talked to a few eyewitnesss a few moments ago who describe a young man, maybe 20s opening fire there in the