working inside in that more immediate area of where that rescue operation was taking place. so, yes, but it s hard to kind of sense that there s some sort of like central, organized committee that is organizing and dispatching all of these rescue teams. it seems like in each one of these locations the efforts are kind of kbroe viezed, some officially, some unofficially. appreciate you being there. thank you. what goes into all the things you ve been seeing. joining us now is joanna heritage head trainer at the search dog foundation. thanks so much for being with us. the dogs that we see, as i said, i mean, some, and correct me if i m wrong here, some are specifically for finding people who are alive and some for finding people who are deceased s is that correct? that s true. but i m not sure which dogs are out there working right now and whether the big question to ask is have these dogs been certified, these dog teams, both the hand her and the dog to a national standard or are th