there is not going to be a ruling on december 10th. even when courts are moving as fast as they can, it may not be fast enough for impeachment. but let me ask you this quickly. if the judge rules that the absolute immunity argument doesn t hold up, that mcgahn has to testify, what would that mean if that happens before december 10th? what would that mean for cooperman and bolton? right. it s going to make a big difference to what happens to cooperman and bolton. a and the two judges were referring to what was going on down the hall. it s all related. if the judge rules mcgahn has to testify, that is going the help congress case on getting cooperman and perhaps bolton to testify as well. a lot of dominos are falling here. the white house was watching what was happening today very closely. elie honig, thanks so much. thank you. up next, refusing to leave quietly. a fiery farewell speech from a congresswoman amid a sex scandal. hiding away and disappearing would be 2 one unfo
came out today that doesn t hold up. the new york times reported that president zelensky and those around him were aware of what the president was asking of him and were really caught in the middle between needing to defend themselves regarding russia invading and some 13,000 of their troops already having been killed and following through with the u.s. not wanting to interfere with u.s. elections. that s of course what many of our difficults weplomats were t to do. again, the a.p. reported that on may 7th, right after zelensky was elected and a few weeks before his inauguration, he had a staff meeting with some of his top aides and he was made aware even then that there was concern about joe biden and investigating his son and the 2016 election coming from the trump administration. so that argument fell flat today, and i m sure we re going to be getting more reporting as the weeks and days span out. bianna is absolutely right,
statement means for impeachment inquiry? everybody knows we ve been spending days and hois and hours and hours, oftentimes without lunch, deposing witnesses. and i frankly couldn t help but come away from yesterday s development with the thought that maybe we just need to shove a few of these guys out in public and stick a microphone in front of their face and they ll do the work for us. this is the same old pattern of the trump administration, deny, deny, and when that doesn t hold up, then say we did it but it s okay in an attempt to normalize it. okay, the other thing that is important to reinforce, that geoff mentioned, and i think we can t say this often enough, the quid pro quo isn t necessary for there to have been a crime committed. the very solicitation, very act of solicitation of president zelensky to involve himself in the 2020 presidential election on behalf of president trump, was itself a violation of law. as you well know, first hand,
i m helping them in foreign countries. if those foreign ventures are turning into conversations with the president, and secretaries cabinet secretaries in the white house, that excuse doesn t hold up. and some of the testimony today, we have senator chris murphy coming on for perspective on this. he heard testimony from someone that substantiates the idea that rex tillerson, then-secretary of state, was pressured by the president, to help giuliani with what he was talking about on this turkish front. who would have guessed that we would have gotten to a point that the best thing rudy giuliani has going for him and the president, is a belief in a nonconspiracy theory who was out to get the president in 2016. that s the only part of this that is clean. if they believe this conspiracy theory, that the ukrainians were out to get trump, that s the only legit thing they could have
the white house says there s been no vote to start the impeachment inquiry and nancy pelosi affirmed last night she wasn t willing to do that. no real precedent here. is there legal ground to force the white house to comply with these subpoenas? there might be. i mean, if you go back to the case of united states against nixon, the supreme court did uphold a subpoena for the for the records. the white house tapes records. so there is some authority. but most of this stuff exists by custom. it s usually it s usually worked out. however, if the administration continues to stonewall and the story the underlying narrative doesn t hold up and apparently it s not, then the house is going to be prepared is going to be prepared to act. and we re, of course, in a highly fluid situation but even at this point, one i think would be able to argue successfully that there s probable cause to believe that high crimes and misdemeanors have been committed in several ways. so this afternoon