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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:03:00

the ex fighter pilot and pharmaceutical executive, her husband. her lover, the handyman former marine and firearms expert. and her first boyfriend, the would-be impressionist painter, his name is tim. and she, the woman of the center of all of it was rachel, rachel hadfield. so, rachel, tell me about her. i m sorry. jess whatever. i ll start again. what did that do to you and i said that? my heart made a sound. the subject of rachel is painful for tim, the pain that might lessen if he could learn to forget, all he can do is remember. like the night they first met. it was a july night, a party, she was dancing and i said wow i have to meet that girl. how old were you?

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:05:00

fewer susan, tim s artistic hopes were not met. he and rachel lowered their sets, and hustled work like murals that could help pay the rent. we were doing year olds and that is all the income we had. murals don t pay all that well? no they don t pay much at all. she was supporting and loving, and directing tim. don hadfield thought that she would outgrow tim, she buckle down and went to college. graduates top of her class, recruited by the law it, they started her at 80 k, we want you know, i want to do a business of my own. and she and tim would run around and do stuff. pink murals? yeah. were they any good? no, not really. but she loved him nonetheless.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:13:00

tim, versus todd, no contest said her dad don hadfield. the guys an air force academy graduate, he is successful in business, he s a family man, from the midwest, he is great. good solid upper middle class, and has a plane. planes, boats, all over the place. for tim the starving artists could offer a lot of nothing. taught on the other hand i went to orlando with him to disneyland and he was picking up the bill for this stuff? most of the time, yes. don had no way of knowing that tim was, for a time, still in rachel s life, sort of. you didn t lose touch completely? we kept in touch. why would they do that? maybe because marriage, her marriage, rachel led him to believe wasn t all apple pie and ice cream. she wanted to share with me what was going on when did she tell you?

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:14:00

she said that todd had taken credit cards and max them all out, bought a plane. put her in debt for $45,000. wow! wow! i said are you freaking out? she said yes, but he will take care of it. which sounded less like complaining then maybe boasting, tim after all could barely qualify for credit at all. eventually being on the outside looking in, it was just too hard. i said i can t take it no more. it s getting harder and harder. he asked her to stop calling him, he had to move on, start painting again, forget her. though, as he admitted to us, he wasn t very successful. i got, you know, for maybe later down the road i thought, we could get together again and share life again. wishful thinking, of course. tim simply fail to understand that rachel s life with hospital todd was getting more exciting by the day. when talks company sent him to

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20211129 04:05:00

but, though many are called, few are chosen. tim s artistic hopes were disappointed. it wasn t happening. it wasn t happening. so he and rachel lowered their sights and hustled up any work-like murals that might help cover the rent. we were, you know, doing murals, and that s all the income we had. murals doesn t pay all that well. no, it doesn t pay much at all. she was under-girding and supporting, loving, and directing tim. don hatfield thought his daughter would outgrow tim. after all, rachel, unlike tim, buckled down and went to college. you know, graduates at top of her class at sonoma state, recruited by deloitte and touche and they started her out at $80k. we want you not, i wanna do a little business of my own, you know? and she and tim would run around and do stuff. paint murals and so forth? yeah. were they any good? not really. but she loved him nonetheless.

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