procedure. this is a very unique proceeding. when the senate is convened for this proceeding, it is convened as a court. it is a court of impeachment. and so they will determine what the rules are and how things unfold. clarity, expertise, wisdom. i can t say we get that all day, every day from washington, but we ve certainly got it from both of you. thanks to both of you. really appreciate it. when we come back, one more fact you may want to know on impeachment. first, richard engel has this preview of his special coming next hour. we went to ukraine to follow the trail. follow what rudy guiliani was doing there. who he was meeting with, what their motivations were. and it turns out this was a not that organized campaign that brought in government officials, private individuals, all with the goal of digging up dirt on the bidens. thank you, richard.
as support for his impeachment is swelling among american public, and support among senate republicans who would serve as jurors if the house votes to impeach him faces its most serious stress test yet. donald trump under fire from green lighting a turkish military operation that has already resulted in the u.s. military cutting on the closest allies. the question today will trump s conduct in the middle east which has already led to one of the fastest and most dramatic political realignments in history, one that strengthens syria s assad, iran, and russia, all american adversaries contribute to a political realignment here at home wherein republicans participate in the congressional investigation that donald trump request digging up dirt on a political rival. another former trump aid from deep inside his own west wing is today s witness in the
they want to erace your voice and your future. but they will fail because unameriuin america the people rule again. from senior white house correspondent, jim acosta. reporter: with two men involved in digging up dirt on joe biden and. i don t know them. i dont know about them. i dont can know what they do but maybe there were clients of rudy. i just don t know. igor and forty-two fruman as they were trying to leave the country are only calling for you to testify in the impeachment
there s a lot more coming down the pike. there s a counterintelligence campaign, intelligence campaign going on by russia right now to change the narrative so it s ukraine that was responsible tore interfering in the 2016 election, even though every u.s. intelligence agency has said the opposite. these conspiracy theories, apparently, are going from some of these folks to rudy giuliani to the resolute desk. let s not make trump too much of a passive victim. ooh, people are giving him things. trump wanted the russians to intervene in 2016. he may not have coordinated and there was no crime perhaps. from his own phone call, president of the united states to the president of ukraine, dirt on a former vice president, possible opponent of his next year and i think trump was happy to get all kinds of help from various sources, foreign or otherwise. he welcomed putin s help and think it s terrible that the u.s. intelligence agencies
pushing them to investigate joe biden, to get dirt. as rick perry was suggesting, that an energy company be restructured so as to help some of the people they re counting on to provide some of this dirt. would that be a crime? is that against the law? i have to think about whether or not that would be a crime. the question as to whether or not it s okay for u.s. government officials to be requesting foreign assistance, really, we can think about different statutory crimes, campaign violations, bribery, things in that realm. that seems extraneous. but the bigger issue is the constitutional issues, which is whether or not it s abuse of the executive authority to be requesting foreign assistance to assist in that campaign and whether or not rick perry now was in some way involved. if he knew he was involved, maybe he was being used in some way or whether he was actually