crime. hacking is the crime. the president didn t hack. he didn t pay for the hacking he said on cnn. the article goes on. it is just a word choice, said a criminal law professor at georgetown. i m sure nobody in the justice department has ever investigated collusion but they have investigated conspiracy. and rudy, she said of mr. trump s lawyer, knows better. for the record, the president has said collusion on twitter 94 times. giuliani has been giving interviews throughout the day. here is what he actually said. i have been sitting here looking at the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. collusion is not a crime. i m not sure if that is a crime. you start analyzing the crime. the hacking is the crime. giuliani also weighed in on the trump tower june 2016
new tonight, did rudy giuliani, president trump s own lawyer, admit there was collusion with russia? that s kind of a crazy thing to even ask, right? but one must ask it when giuliani said this not once but twice today, saying, oh, collusion isn t a crime. i don t even know if that s a crime, colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime, the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. that certainly is the original crime. the president didn t hack. i ve been looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. it s not. collusion is not a crime. this is significant because it s actually kind of not the point. the point is rudy giuliani never denied collusion took place. he just said collusion isn t a crime. collusion itself, forget the crime part, colluding is something president trump has repeatedly denied.
lied before your committee and he won t call him back. are you satisfied with that? not particularly but on the other hand again it points out how important it is for the mueller investigation to continue even as trump and his minions and his enablers continue to go after mueller in a very personal way and they re just heightening their personal attacks on mueller, and this is why that investigation must continue. rudy guiliani tells cnn, i am quoting now, the president didn t hack and didn t pay them for hacking. that defense comes days after cnn reported that michael cohen says the president signed off on the russian meeting ahead of time, knew of the offer of dirt on hillary clinton. do you think the trump team is preparing for more revelations about what the president actually knew? they must be otherwise they
crime. colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime, the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. the president it s a sign the president s legal team is is trying move the goal posts on the probe as the investigation moves closer to president trump s inner circle, he s trying to distance him from manafort. he was never involved in intimate business relationship with donald trump. the president s lawyer is doing the talking for the president on all things russia. all things michael chone and he s doing quite a lot of talk ing. jake. jeff, thanks so much. let s talk to our experts. laura coates, our former federal prosecutor, i want you to listen about what the crime might have been. i don t know if that s a crime. colluding about russians. start analyzing the crime, the hacking is the crime. the president didn t hack. before we get to the moving of the goal posts going on here,
comes from giuliani, who attempted to downplay the criminal aspect of collusion with the russians. rather than deny that collusion took place, he now today argued that collusion isn t illegal. let s watch. i ve been sitting here looking in the federal code trying to find collusion as a crime. it s not. collusion is not a crime. i don t even know if that s a crime, colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime. the hacking is the crime. the hacking that certainly is the original the president didn t hack. of course not. that s he didn t pay them for hacking. it s so much fun. an apparent shift in strategy. giuliani now appears to be saying that collusion is not so bad after all. you saw him there chuckling about it. and also 150e78d to undermined the credibility, however, of president trump s frequent and categorical denials that there was no collusion. which has been a familiar refrain from this president. let s watch him. let s put it this way. ther