nicolle, these people knew something was wrong and didn t act to stop it. chuck rosenberg, who s always, always, always, every day of the week nicer than me. thank you for spending some time with us. donald trump s claims to not know two of rudy giuliani s business associates who were indicted may have backfired. how one of them is seeking to cooperate with the congressional impeachment investigation. that s next. that s next. as a struggling actor,
she was just spinning into this mental cycle of self-destruction. reporter: and then todd s defense revealed this little gem. she s signed up for california sweetheart, which is an adult connection kind of you can judge for yourselves what it is. reporter: married to a man she d grown to hate, in an affair with a man she was maybe thinking of cheating on, said the defense. she was conflicted, said todd s attorney. she was telling people she was afraid of todd. and yet she sure didn t act like it here, todd and rachel look happy. compare it with this photograph taken in las vegas about just a few days before rachel died. reporter: but there was something else, said todd s attorney, and it was reason number two, that rachel s death was not murder. and that was that his client had a psychotic breakdown when rachel attacked him. his ability to understand what he was doing was diminished.
after 9/11 we got really good about being vigilant in airports. if you see a bag sitting unattended everybody knows to go and alert somebody because we know that could be a dangerous problem. in most of these shootings, over 80% of the shootings somebody was told or knew about it and didn t act. we need to focus on the things that will solve the problems. not try to blame somebody else. nobody is to blame except the shooter in these mass shootings and let s see how we can make laws work better for people. bill: when you were shot on the baseball field and think about the gunman in that case. is there a particular law that could have prevented that from happening to you? this was a guy who fell between the shadows. he disappeared, had an estranged wife and went off the grid. what are you going to do about that? what law are you going to pass to address that? in the end all you end up doing
i was ready. i was, this is it. this is who i want to be with. this is who i want to grow old with. this is who i want to have kids with. reporter: and they did. a year later came a baby girl. and sam embraced his role as dad. he was like mr. mom, you know. he stayed home and took care of the baby while i worked. reporter: if sam had anything to do with cathy s murder, he certainly didn t act like it. he stayed put. living with his wife and baby right down the street from cathy s mom, mary. she would sit outside and stare at us, and i felt like she was doing it to make me uncomfortable, and probably him, too. but i m sure she didn t want him to be happy if she thought that he had anything to do with what happened to her daughter. reporter: sam say anything about mary? no. no. he would try to tell me to
a journalist. they say he is an agitator, basically asking for this. that s reprehensible. he is a journalist, and he has every right to be doing what he s doing. letting folks see what has actually been happening, and again, because he is conservative or viewed as conservative, it just hasn t gotten the same attention as i would have otherwise. bill: just to round out the argument, you wonder who else is covering this. we have for a few days now, and you wonder where the presidential candidates are on this. andrew yang sent this out. i hope he is okay. journalist should be safe without being targeted. we heard from ric grenell a moment ago. i want to get to the bottom of the facts to figure out what did we know, and who didn t act? who had information and didn t use it to protect people? we cannot stop every single radical group.