he has announced he will retire from active duty. i think you would like to get back to his life. harris: on the president has said he might even want him to campaign. marie: it s a broader conversation that just eddie gallagher and what he was or was not convicted of and whether he should have his trident pin. the president has done this with a number of military cases. he didn t just do this with eddie, to others at the same time. reaching down into the military justice system, and it seems to many people, including many of the military, downplay the importance of rules of engagement and the fact that there are very strict rules. there are many military people on the record, katie. don t sigh at me. they say what i just said. katie: want to talk about the rules of engagement under barack obama, so strict that the casual rates this happened in 2012. this is when this happened for the rules of engagement were very different and very strict, and the casualty rate went up. if you
president trump, to empathize with and identify with a soldier in the field versus the general who has become more political and more like a bureaucrat, in order to excel in that position. i m not saying one or the other is right. i am saying that it fits with the way president trump looks at the world, where he identifies with the person lowest on the totem pole versus person who is his manager. marie: even though he didn t serve, himself. melissa: but it s the same with workers versus the boss with the ceo. he always he always identifies with the person lowest on the totem pole. harris: all right, we will move on. she says she still has a plan for this and a plan for that, but a new analysis shows that elizabeth warren s plans would add up to a major expansion of the federal government. how major? we will get into it. it s not going to be enough to say, we will mop up a little over here, we will get a statute over here. here s my one idea over here. no. it s going to take b
from office. that means after all of those hours of testimony, after everything we ve seen, unchanged one way or the other. as this goes into the voters bloodstream, what does that look like? to even have an idea? i don t think we do. marie: we don t, but democrats believe they are doing the right thing. polls shouldn t guide this. genuinely, they believe that. katie: but republicans can make the argument they wasted time. melissa: congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez says she s tired of people calling tuition free college and medicare for all free stuff. what she says they really are. plus, michael bloomberg getting the campaign trail for the first time amid big push back against bloomberg news deciding not to investigate 2020 democrats. if you have medicare, listen up.
melissa: i have a solution for that. but the debt back on the university that sold them that wasn t worth what you paid for it. marie: i totally agree. so we will about aoc, she s a force of nature. she s a good politician. watch that video and i m like, she s pretty good at this. i don t agree with armand many things, but she s got this whole politics things. katie: we are clapping at people, that s like a kindergarten class. you are trying to give them to pay attention, not you certain. it is true that changing the language of something can change the definition. the affordable care act for example, not really that affordable, but that was the name of it. so it seems like that s what it would be. in this case, i think she s trying to expand the definition of what a public good is. a public good is a freeway or a park that everybody is paying taxes too. a public good is not just some rich person who has more money than you, and you thinking that you get to take what they hav