president trump, to empathize with and identify with a soldier in the field versus the general who has become more political and more like a bureaucrat, in order to excel in that position. i'm not saying one or the other is right. i am saying that it fits with the way president trump looks at the world, where he identifies with the person lowest on the totem pole versus person who is his manager. >> marie: even though he didn't serve, himself. >> melissa: but it's the same with workers versus the boss with the ceo. he always he always identifies with the person lowest on the totem pole. >> harris: all right, we will move on. she says she still has a plan for this and a plan for that, but a new analysis shows that elizabeth warren's plans would add up to a major expansion of the federal government. how major? we will get into it. >> it's not going to be enough to say, "we will mop up a little over here, we will get a statute over here. here's my one idea over here." no. it's going to take big structural change.