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airplanes, certainly helicopters. they have shown that they can do that. but i wonder, do you think on the russian side there is any realization that this could potentially, ultimately be fruitless for the reasons that you describe? that, even if they flatten buildings and and burn shopping centers in cities like mariupol, that fundamentally, they won t hold the terrain because the ukrainians simply just do not want them here? so, we ve seen a good bit of evidence coming from military leaders, people in security services that s been leaking out that indicates that people at the senior level are are well aware of the problems that they re facing in ukraine. in fact, in many cases, were caught off guard by putin s desire to to engage in this kind of war in ukraine, precisely because they thought it wasn t winnable, you know, in a political sense. so we have seen a lot of that. what we don t know is how far up that gets. we don t know how isolated putin is and and what he is hea

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