That he wanted to harm or indicate in any way that he wanted to harm any of the protectees of the president. Walking, and there was a bulge in the back of his jacket. As ive been briefed here. And the officer approached him, and noticed that he had a hatchet in the back of his pants. As i was briefed. The hatchet, my understanding, in d. C. Is not in violation of the law, if its considered to be used for campingtype activities. And thats what his individual indicated he had the hatchet for. The individual also allowed for gave a consent search of his vehicle. So he was very cooperative during the interview. When they searched his vehicle, there were no weapo found in equipment to again the story that he was involved in camping activities, so again he was released from the interview then subsequently on september 19 and again three of the officers who were familiar with the hatchet interview recognized him. Weve got a better job of communicating. There is officers who saw him more thing