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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20211014 02:14:00

behaving in those final weeks. he was acting completely beyond his authority. he s supposed to be in charge of environmental crimes and was conducting his own investigations or supposed investigations into voter fraud. he was violating multiple department rules, having contacts with the white house, having contacts with members of congress, both of which he was not allowed to do on his own, and of course violating his oath to the constitution by trying to overturn the election. and he really is, you know, out there by himself because, you know, we ve seen jeffrey rosen and we ve seen one of jeffrey rosen s subordinates testifying before congress because the justice department has already told rosen and clark and other doj officials from this time period that the department is waiving all of the relevant privileges. usually the department blocks its officials from coming up and testifying for matters like this, and they ve waived all of them. that s true for jeffrey clark. if he wants t

Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20211014 20:17:00

between mr. trump and clark. i think it is hard for people who don t work in the justice department to understand how egregious clark s behavior was. he was out on his own conducting sort of investigations into alleged voter fraud, both of which he has no jurisdiction over and without his superiors knowing he was doing it. he was talking directly with the white house w the president, which he s not allowed to do under department of justice rules. and he was talking with at least one republican member of congress, which he s also not allowed to do under justice department rules. he was violating multiple justice department policies in an attempt to overturn the election. to your point, we only know the thing that jeffrey rosen was a witness to. we know about this january 3rd meeting a the white house, which happened because clark was proposing to send this letter to the state of georgia urging them to void their election results, and rosen protested and ended up in a meeting with the

Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20211014 05:13:00

possibility of this happening again. we need the facts, that are being asked. everything that has been subpoenaed, everything requested in the letters, seems very clearly relevant to legislative actions. what matt, it seems geoff clark, my guess about him is that it s very likely that he will show up to testify. it s also very likely he will take the fifth amendment to virtually every question. we i think that s likely, i think that certainly he s going to have to show up to testify. he really is on an island by himself, if you look at the way he s behaving in those final weeks. he was acting completely beyond his authorities, he supposed to be in charge of environmental crimes, and was conducting his own investigations force or supposed investigation into fraud fraud. he was violating multiple department rules and having context with the white house, and members of congress, both of which he was not allowed to do on his own. and of course, violating his

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