president. and i think that it has been a very unfair process. reporter: that s the view here from hershey, pennsylvania, chris, where the president will be rallying later tonight. thanks so much. back to you. monica, thank you very much. on the other side of 2020, democrats getting ready for the next debate nine days away. today, some really interesting new looks at the race, courtesy of polsters at quinnipiac. this literally just came out. also this afternoon, another poll from monmouth university. joining me, the guy that knows the numbers, national political correspondent steve kornacki. start with the q poll. it landed in my inbox a half hour ago, and it has implications for the debate, right? fresh news for the 3:00 p.m. hour. these polls matter because the deadline to qualify for the next democratic debate, that debate coming up december 19th, the deadline is two days away. there was one candidate that still needed to hit the number,
was no harm, no foul. this was not a completed offense because ukraine got the money without announcing investigation into the bidens. this is saying we can t just let it end there, he is still trying to do it, still actively soliciting for election interference as we speak, therefore it is warranted, even though it didn t end up happening there. the last point i make, what s missing is they decided nod to go forward with article on obstruction of justice, they kept it narrowly focused. not bringing in the mueller report, not bringing in all of the dust in the air left over from the long investigation that ultimately resulted in an unsatisfying muddle of an outcome. let me read from objection of congres obstruction of congress. no president ordered complete defines of impeachment inquiry,
damaging forat him. yeah. it was really interesting your colleague peter baker and i think david roady in the new york talked about yesterday in particular, theer way david putt was it was ay bad day for fact. more to come. right? to have that conversation. david thank you. natasha, always great to see you. meantime,s we have the fol who want to run against the president. and there s other news regarding the white house. not from someone who is there now but someone signaling they might want to be. we re getting a provocative new tease from stacey abrams who was close to becoming the country s first african american female governor. she rejected many calls to run for u.s. senate even more president. but now in a new interview with msnbc contributor jonathan capehart, she s not ruling out a vice president nomination should she be asked. jonathan capehart joins me now. always great to see you,
that they have relied on hearsay or don t have direct evidence of something. they re trying to be sure that everybody always remembers it was the president who instructed these things not to be produced. as charlie was saying, they left aside, did not include the obstruction to the mueller report, they don t want to cloud things up. they re keeping it narrow, focused, but they re doing two things in parallel saying these are the abuses of office he participated in with respect to ukraine and these are the reasons that we don t have certain witnesses and certain documents because the president obstructed our ability to get them. in many ways, it is going back in the whole idea of narrow and focused to what nancy pelosi said from the beginning, we have to be able to make this case, we have to keep it very pointed. as you pointed out, trying to keep it forward looking, alleging that the president is a threat to the 2020 election, and i found it interesting today when you were listening
it s a great question. what we area hearing is that lavrov requested a meeting with the president at the white house. and he got it. and the optics, of course, are extremely c jarring, because th president is in the middle of an impeachment investigation dealing with the fact that he denied a white house meeting to the ukrainians over the issue of investigations of his political rivals. so to afford the russians, even if it s not the russian president this meeting at the white house is an a extra slap the face to the ukrainians. especially because the president still has not invited zelensky to the white house even before he met with vladimir putin s, sclin skiim did on monday to discuss the war in eastern ukraine going on. that would have been a great show g of support for zelensky the united ppstates. the president still has yet to do that kinden of outreach. at the same time, he s rolling out the s red carpet for the russian foreign minister who at the same time who two years ag