in criminal law you have kind of the guilt, innocence phase, did the person do it, and then you have the sentencing phase. the guilt and innocence phase is done here. i think the congressman was right to say this isn t a casual slip of the tongue. it was a 39-minute press conference that the white house chief of staff gave and after a month in which the white houses that been consumed by this. this wasn t like he got some gotcha question that he never thought about before be, he confessed plain and simple to an impeachable offense. wendy sherman, when mick mulvaney was saying this is the way it works, this is the way presidents and especially this president conducting foreign policy so there s nothing to see
really speak to the caucus except to say that i think the speaker is doing what she does best. she is protecting the caucus and making sure that the constitution is protected as well. and that s why we are pursuing this particular investigation with the kind of that it deserves. congressman heck, these witnesses coming forward, fiona hill and george kent, giuliani, omb, dod and the vice president s office on the other hand refuse to provide information to your committees. how do you view that distinction and what did you learn today that you can tell us about? well, first of all, let s acknowledge the bravery, the profiles and courage of the individuals who have come forward and complied with the legally authorized subpoena, ari. these people are true american heros and they re doing a great service to america. so that s the first and most important thing. secondly, with respect to the president ordering his employees to refuse to participate or to comply with a legally authorize
in the senate. so we re in the investigation phase not the circus phase. i understand that. your reminders, your expertise on how it works on the inside i think is really educational to all of us. congresswoman speier, congressman heck, thanks to both of you. thank you, ari. thank you, ari. appreciate it. up next, more breaking news we got that concerns the president s lawyer rudy giuliani and new details what he was asking the president to do on behalf of another foreign government. that s next. behalf of another f government that s next.
arraignment that s going to happen in new york this thursday. now, as they wait for that federal prosecutors drilling down on this associate rudy giuliani. new reporting in the wall street journal, quote, a grand jury s issued a subpoena related to the investigation into giuliani seeking documents from former congressman pete sessions about his dealings with trump s lawyer and associates. the journal noting mr. sessions knowledge of mr. giuliani s dealings a primary focus of the subpoena. that news comes amidst reporting that federal investigators may have been focused on giuliani for some time. a manhattan attorney that represents high-profile ukrainian clients telling the usa today u.s. counterintelligence agents have been examining giuliani s business dealings with two indicted businessmen since early 2019. the attorneys say that those agents, quote, contacted him in february or march. they asked whether giuliani, who was donald trump s attorney, had business dealings with
foreign leaders are typically handled. in addition to this breaking story, we are tracking everything coming out of the congress tonight after speaker pelosi s press conference. and i m joined now by two democratic members of the house intelligence committee. congresswoman jackie speier of california and congressman denny heck of washington. good evening to both of you. congressman heck, we will get to everything that happened on the hill today, but your reaction to this breaking news and what does it mean that the new york times says the white house is conducting the review in this manner? well, as we ve feared all along, we think that the white house is engaging in an attempt to discover the identity of the whistle-blower, ari. and the fact of the matter is that the intelligence community whistle-blower protection act affords the right of anonymity to the whistle-blower. and let s remember why that is well, let me stop you there just to understand. if you re saying federal la