A lot of things. Thanks, appreciate the reporting. Im joined by caroline. Lets get to the conflict issue and what the president wrote over the weekend. Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to prtd tr President Trump. What he was talking about with this alleged Conflict Of Interest and white house wouldnt tell cnn either when they asked this question. You think you know what its about and has merit. There are three things we know that President Trump himself stated, theres this lingering Potential Dispute over fees at his golf course and then of course the other issue besides the fact that mueller had worked for wilmer hail, the law firm that represented jared and ivanka and experts in the doj cleared, they vetted him to do this representation ethically. But the issue is that interviewed for ahead of the fbi with President Trump days before his appointment as special counsel. I think as everything in this case, hes grasping for straws. They are
no, they were not doing foreign policy a lot of them. they were not protecting national security. they were not looking out for the national interest. they were not representing the people who elected the president to be president. all of us, that is, american citizens. what they were doing is carrying off a political hit job, an errand. they were trump s version of nixon s plumbers. this was their version of the watergate break in. joining me now is congressman denny heck of washington. how would you sum up what you learned in this week of testimony? there was a lot of it. first of all, i think in some regards americans can sleep better tonight because they were treated to witness after witness after witness from the diplomatic corp and from federal service that put their love of country before all else, people of integrity and character and
the day after bob mueller testified, the day after bob mueller testified that donald trump invited russian interference the day after that donald trump is back on the phone asking another nation to involve itself in another u.s. election. that says to me this president believes he is above the law, beyond accountability. and in my view there is nothing more dangerous than an unethical president who believes they are above the law. and i would just say to people watching here at home and around the world, in the words of my great colleague, we are better than that. adjourned. congressman, how how dire do you think the stakes are in terms of the message that is
and oh, by the way in the process we ve undermined the very predicate of democracy which is rule of law. congressman denny heck who was in those hearings all week thanks so much. and joining me now two people who have been following these hearings closely. you ve done some reporting on fiona hill. a lot of people were were surprised when she left the brookings institution to join the trump administration. he talked about it today, and i thought really interesting terms. basically she went back in because she actually thinks she thinks a u.s.-russia bilateral relationship is important. we can t be at constant odds. and she wanted to do what she could do set it straight. julia?
the world, in the words of my great colleague, we are better than that. adjourned. congressman, how how dire do you think the stakes are in terms of the message that is sent both to this president and future presidents if it is essentially deemed fine to do what the president did? if he normalizes this, chris, absolutely. we have an opportunity here to hold the president accountable. and if we do not, pretty clearly he would have established the base that any future president can get away with, the kinds of things that he did. and that there will be no way to hold them accountable. i ve always thought this about the rule of law and whether or not the president was above it. he s not. one of your colleagues today, republican will hurd, he s a retiring member of congress, he