they are handing over the west wing to donald trump. but then when you get up into the higher ranks and in particular the president himself, he, i think, has taken great pains to give trump space during this transition. he s talking to him privately. dennis met with reince priebus privately. they are trying to give them guidance without being too heavy handed. i think the president would be more than willing to continue talking to trump after he leaves the white house. i think he feels if trump can call on him as a resource, he can give him context for his decisions and some of his policies that trump may not get from his own advisers. that may be wishful thinking on the part of obama but how he thinks of the relationship going forward. michelle obama said something that drew negative headlines. in her interview with oprah, she said he is our president. if he succeeds, america succeeds.
we ve all grown to love over the next decade. we ll have to see how all this plays out but some exciting games yesterday. then when you did talk about charles smith, i found that fascinating what you guys were talking about over the past half-hour. we ll all known charles to be one of the smarter players in the nba when he was playing. certainly a thoughtful guy, as you guys discovered upon talking to him. so it was a little bit surprising to see him take this trip and to see him trying to jump in in the interview that cnn had earlier this week with chris cuomo, jump in and defend dennis and defend the trip. he said a variety of things since that moment. sort of whether he regrets it or not, i heard him on the air just with you guys saying he doesn t have any regrets. i think this is a complicated situation for a lot of these guys. i had the opportunity to ask david stern when he was a guest on the situation room with wolf blitzer why a guy like charles smith would take this trip sin
dennis rodman. dennis rodman has used this is a good friend of mine to talk about kim jong-un, which he is obviously a very controversial figure in the u.s. and in north korea. so charles, i wanted to ask you, when you came back, i know that you had said maybe friend isn t the way that you would characterize him. can you help us understand the relationship between rodman and kim jong-un? i will try the best way i can. you know, it started with it being publicized in the paper that kim jong-un was a bulls fan. dennis met a gentleman who would go in and out of north korea, out of new york, at an event an auction event that dennis was a part of and he spoke korean. he s been in and out of there.
were very unlike dennis. unlike him in what way? well, you know, he s been engaging. we saw what happened on the show. it was unlike him from my experience in dealing with him over the years. he definitely felt a lot of pressure. what people do not understand about him, he s had his hall of fame speech which stated that he s a terrible dad, he said that publicly several times and what dennis wants is he wants to he has a deep desire to do something good in a big way for his family, his kids, and so his kids can be proud of him. i felt for him. i felt for him on this trip because i saw the pressure mount. i saw him change and it was very
to the time i left. there will be some great outcomes coming from it, very positive outcomes. and dennis needed the assistance so i helped him with getting the players and helped him with the some of the execution and took a lot of the pressure off of him. okay, charles. you talk about getting a call from a friend who needs some assistance. let s talk about someone else who needs some assistance, kenneth bae. being held by the government of north korea with no reports. reportedly kim jong-un reportedly ordered the execution of his uncle as well. were you aware of the case of kenneth bae the execution of kim jong-un s uncle before you decided to go and help your friend and play basketball in north korea? oh, absolutely. i think, you know, the reports